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[-] stoly@lemmy.world 39 points 5 months ago

It’s not really about liberty, it’s about freedom from taxes and consequences. They don’t get far enough in the reasoning to understand that they would benefit.

[-] Trebuchet@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Don't forget lowering the age of consent

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

This is anti-libertarian, imo. Libertarianism does revolve around upholding contracts made through individual consent. For this to work, one must be able to give concious and uncoerced consent. Lowering the age of consent does not support this — as it stands, the age of legal consent is, arguably, too low. Being able to provide consent comes with maturity.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Libertarianism is just values free Capitalism.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Capitalism has always been values free

[-] DMBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

NAP is a value.

[-] isles@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

But I'm 20 and healthy, why should I have to pay for healthcare for mrs. sickey over there? Did she even try being born without a chronic illness? Doubt it.

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Because eventually you will be old and sick. It’s short sighted not to consider that.

[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

It’s not really about liberty

Individual liberty is core to the philosophy of libertarianism.

it’s about freedom from taxes

This is a complicated issue, and it is not a cut and dry opinion of all libertarians to oppose all taxes in their entirety. A core idea in libertarianism is to avoid excessive government abuse of power — taxes are often viewed as one such abuse. Those that are more libertarian oriented, but are more favorable towards some types of taxes are, imo, more accurately referred to as Georgists, but it of course relies on exactly what taxes they support, and their rationale.

it’s about freedom from [...] consequences.

If you are referring to consequences from infringing on the freedoms of others, then that is not libertarian. Supporting the idea of liberty is to also support the liberty of others.

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