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[-] ImADifferentBird 39 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Most people don't see cisgender as a slur. Only complete asshole transphobes do.

Honestly, not even they do. They just lie about it as a gotcha.

[-] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

From wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisgender

The term cisgender was coined in 1994 as an antonym to transgender, and entered into dictionaries starting in 2015 as a result of changes in social discourse about gender.[4][5] The term has been and continues to be controversial and subject to critique.

I think there's some confirmation bias on your end here. The local community (including me) tends to be young and liberal and knows the term cisgender. I'd bet that the majority (by a huge margin) of English speakers (including as a second or third language) has never even heard the term cisgender or doesn't know what it means. Lots of them will react negatively if you label them cisgender out of pure ignorance and false assumptions - no transphobia needed.

Only complete asshole transphobes do. Honestly, not even they do. They just lie about it as a gotcha.

Sure, they exist. But what's their percentage of the population or the X user base? I think you're making a false generalization by an invalid extrapolation.

And just to be clear: I'm not saying cisgender is a slur. I'm just pointing out that the notion that community A or an individual can decide whether some word is a slur or not in community B is ridiculous, and that the argument, from the first comment I replied to, for technical correctness or intended meaning of a word is irrelevant for who considers what a slur.

I hope that made my point clearer to your dry-nosed primate's brain.

[-] ImADifferentBird 32 points 6 months ago

Most people don't hear a new word and immediately assume it's a slur.

Most people without an ax to grind anyway.

[-] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

Your comment reminded me I have an actual axe to sharpen in the shed. Thanks.

[-] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

I’m pretty confident the slur-status of a word is closely rated to whether or not it is used in a hateful way to refer to a people group or member of a group that is in some way disadvantaged. For example the n-word is obviously a slur and “cracker” or “whitey” obviously are not. That’s why cisgender isn’t a slur, even if people can and have use(d) it in a hateful way.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago

I'm just pointing out that the notion that community A or an individual can decide whether some word is a slur or not in community B is ridiculous,

As a member of group B I consider the word community a slur (purely because it is convenient for my argument to do so). Never use that word again because it is a slur and it would be ridiculous for you to say otherwise.

[-] Djtecha@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

I'm not a fan of you assuming my identity. Did I ask to be referred to as that?

[-] ImADifferentBird 9 points 6 months ago

I don't recall referring to you at all. Who are you?

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