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[-] TheUncannyObserver@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago

No matter who wins this November, Palestinians are still going to suffer from this genocide, because neither side is going to stop Israel. It’s not going to be better or worse with Trump, because those people are still going to be dead, and the only difference is how long they have to suffer before they die. Arguing over which death is more humane is shockingly immoral of us.

As Americans, we don’t get to absolve ourselves from that guilt by voting for Biden. We’re directly responsible for allowing our nation to come to the point where this is our only choices. Israel may be dropping the bombs, but it’s America that’s killing them. We’re voting for the lesser evil, but evil is still evil, it’s all the same, and you and I, and every other American, are guilty as hell for it. We’re all mass murderers, and we’re all sleeping soundly at night.

Because we voted for the lesser evil.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

it’s not going to be better or worse with Trump,

It's not going to be better or worse with the guy who wants them to 'finish the job' and famously broke with even usual conservative orthodoxy to support Israeli genocide?

Whether it’s the guy who wants them to kill every Palestinian, or the guy who is gonna sit there and let them kill every Palestinian while wringing his hands and reaffirming the unconditional support for Israel, the Palestinians are still dead and murdered. The fact that you’re arguing that one side is better is absolutely fucking absurd.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Alright, what about the guy who is reducing US weapons aid to Israel vs. the guy who is in favor of INCREASING weapons aid to Israel?

Oh, what am I saying? Silly me, thinking policy has consequences.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

And then...

Biden administration is moving ahead on new $1 billion arms sale to Israel, congressional aides say

https://apnews.com/article/us-israel-arms-gaza-ebe971ca8878ff430ce6458c04151585

[-] Saurok@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Right? Is the "reducing US weapons aid to Israel" in the room with us right now??

[-] horsey@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Does that sound like a lot to you or something?

[-] Saurok@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

In what realm is 1 billion dollars not a lot of money? Also whether or not it's "a lot" wasn't even what the contention was about... OP said Biden was reducing weapons aid to Israel and the above comment proves that's not true.

Trump would have sent $1.1 billion. Is that what you want?

/s

[-] fosho@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

that's... not how it works. your vote is not an endorsement. plenty of people will openly protest against support of Israel while voting for Biden. you can actually break it down to pragmatic logic instead of the entirely incorrect broad strokes that you have done.

also your take smells like bot farm propaganda.

[-] RandomGuy79@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Congratulations you've been re programmed by tiktok to think cheetoman is the same as sleepyjoe

Biden is actively sending more weapons to Israel right this moment. The difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump hasn’t gotten a chance to actively participate and support genocide yet, and Biden has not only done that, but continues to express unwavering support for that genocide. So you’re right, Biden and Trump aren’t the same. They might be, if Trump wins this November, but right now Biden is objectively worse.

this post was submitted on 14 May 2024
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