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submitted 6 months ago by unlawfulbooger to c/196

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[-] Bonsoir@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 months ago

I don't see how saying that the democrats aren't achieving enough is an effort to elect Trump.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 16 points 6 months ago

The people targeted by this kind of image in the comments are people who would have voted for Biden and other Democrats. It causes people to either become apathetic and fail to vote (or do any other meaningful action to influence their government) or to become angry and refuse to vote in protest. But, in order to have that effect it most be coupled with some amount of "both sides" rhetoric or "not good enough" rhetoric. Criticism by itself is not enough.

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 18 points 6 months ago

What really makes me apathetic and not want to bother voting is every time someone puts pressure on Biden to be better, they're met with bullshit like this instead of "yeah, your right, let's keep the pressure up so he'll be even better next time"... You know what REALLY turns people off? Being dismissed and not feeling heard or validated

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

"The democrats are mean to me so I didn't vote" grow a goddamn spine

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

Probably not a great argument for getting people to vote... Let alone vote the way you'd like them to

[-] Liz@midwest.social 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah that can be tough, some people view criticism as the same thing as total opposition, especially on the internet where personal history is non-existent and hyperbole is rampant. It can help to couple your criticism with something that lets those people know you're still on their side.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

The people targeted are the politicians and anyone who helps them maintain the delusion they can win without muslim voters or the left. Saying "Biden need to end the genocide to win the election" is not an attempt to stop Biden from winning the election. Saying "Facilitating genocide, restarting student loan payments, building the wall were all unforced errors that hurt his chances" are not attempts to stop Biden from winning the election.

The only people stopping Biden from winning the election are Biden, the DNC, and everyone claiming they can win without at least repairing the damage he has done RE Israel and student loan repayments.