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[-] huginn@feddit.it 5 points 2 years ago

"healthy" when he went to the hospital for breathing issues before getting pneumonia.

Man had COVID. He was immunocompromised and got MRSA in his blood from intubation. This isn't unheard of insanity: intubation is a risky maneuver because it kills people like this all the time.

[-] SoleInvictus 29 points 2 years ago

When your response requires you to quote information out of context and to fill in information you don't have with guesses (COVID and immunocompromisation), you're just making things up to suit your belief. Your premise is that other people are just making things up to suit their beliefs. I'll just stop there.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 1 points 2 years ago

He was listed as having issues before going to the hospital. They said "otherwise healthy" in the same paragraph as "went to the hospital for trouble breathing"

COVID is still a raging pandemic no matter how far you shove your head up your own ass.

[-] SoleInvictus 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There you go again, making up things so you can make a point. No one ever said or even hinted COVID isn't present, although I'd argue it is now and will for the foreseeable future be firmly endemic. I'm a microbiologist, remember? I actually worked in public health for years. We tend to believe in science.

There are also numerous things that aren't COVID that can cause pneumonia. Until we know what that might have been in this case, any statements claiming with any surety that COVID caused these symptoms are purely supposition.

Edit: Oh no! OP caught that I accidentally posted and immediately deleted this comment on my old .world account. Such scandal!

[-] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

The way you phrase that is troubling. Intubation doesn’t kill people. People get intubated because they’re going to die without it. Every invasive procedure has its risks, and those are weighed before doing it.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Intubation is risky because the act of intubation itself can introduce deadly pathogens, like MRSA, into the lungs.

Catheterization kills people too, for similar reasons.

People get intubated because they will die without it, meaning the risk of dying from intubation outweighs the guarantee of dying without it.

Intubation is more likely than not going to give you a nasty infection. More than 60% if patients intubated during the pandemic caught some form of secondary infection from the process.

[-] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago

That is what I said.

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