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[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

These YIMBY people go on and on about traffic deaths but never talk about the companies requiring a return to office that forces everyone to drive unnecessarily.

During COVID and the work from home (WFH) mandate, traffic deaths fell off a cliff due in large part to people not driving to work.

I'm not saying cars shouldn't be smaller or cities walkable. I'm saying these people like YIMBYs are disingenuous about safety and the environment because a return to a WFH mandate would help immediately.

YIMBYs are simply shills for greedy developers that want to gentrify inner cities.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

These YIMBY people go on and on about traffic deaths but never talk about the companies requiring a return to office that forces everyone to drive unnecessarily.

During COVID and the work from home (WFH) mandate, traffic deaths fell off a cliff due in large part to people not driving to work.

I'm not saying cars shouldn't be smaller or cities walkable. I'm saying these people like YIMBYs are disingenuous about safety and the environment because a return to a WFH mandate would help immediately.

YIMBYs are simply shills for greedy developers that want to gentrify inner cities.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Are you seriously saying that someone arguing cars should be smaller to reduce traffic deaths are shills because they aren’t specifically arguing for your position, which is that everyone who can work from home should?

My brother in Christ, you are creating a false dilemma. You are George W saying “Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”

You are essentially saying, “If you want to reduce traffic deaths, your primary argument needs to be that we should all work from home. Otherwise you’re being paid to help gentrify cities.

[-] SeattleRain@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Yes because they are doing it to the exclusion of policies that could be inacted TODAY instead of waiting years or even decades for entire cities to be reconstructed.

The thing is WFH doesn't benefit YIMBYs and their developer paymasters, it would only benefit working class people.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Yes because they are doing it to the exclusion of policies that could be inacted TODAY

Saying we need smaller cars doesn’t preclude work from home. I love work from home and advocate for it. I also think we should have smaller cars. If I’m expressing the need for smaller cars it doesn’t mean I don’t also favor work from home policies.

The thing is WFH doesn't benefit YIMBYs and their developer paymasters, it would only benefit working class people.

Where exactly do YIMBYs come into this? YIMBYs are often people who agree that changes are needed and welcome them in their area despite potential personal losses. For example someone who owns a house but votes to allow multi-family zoning in their neighborhood despite the loss of property value they’ll face, or someone who votes to have a homeless shelter or affordable housing near them.

People who want improved housing, public transportation, and pedestrian safety aren’t inherently opposed to work from home. Acting like they are is absurd and creating division where there is none and where it is unnecessary.

Affordable housing, public transit, and walkable cities benefit everyone, especially the working class.

[-] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

The cities are already gentrified. You're about 10-20 years behind the times.

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