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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and other European leaders have applauded the US for passing a vital €89 billion aid bill which has been struggling to make it through the House of Representatives for months.

The House swiftly approved roughly €89 billion in foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and other US allies in a rare Saturday session as Democrats and Republicans banded together after months of hard-right resistance over renewed American support for repelling Russia’s invasion.

With an overwhelming vote, €57 billion in aid for Ukraine passed in a matter of minutes, a strong showing as American lawmakers race to deliver a fresh round of US support to the war-torn ally. Many Democrats cheered on the House floor and waved blue-and-yellow flags of Ukraine.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago
[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Rofl... Are you at least paid for this shit? Cause if not... Imagine being so fucking dumb that you actually believe that shit and on top of that, instead of preaching somewhere where you've got a chance, you stay on Lemmy. It's so fucking sad, man.. can't you see it? You're trying to sell meat to a bunch of vegans, it's hilarious.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Imagine being so fucking dumb that you actually believe that shit

So stupid you're familiar with US history prior to 1991?

If you think the Saddam story is unbelievable, wait till you learn about Noriega.

It’s so fucking sad, man… can’t you see it?

Why do folks who want to sound incredulous just sound like they're high as fuck?

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

If you think the Saddam story is unbelievable, wait till you learn about Noriega.

Yes we are all well aware that Republicans have a long history of appeasing dictators. Same as now.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Republicans have a long history of appeasing dictators

Not just Republicans...

The flood of weapons going into Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan is going to fuel the same kinds of conflicts that arms sold to Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, and Jordan fueled 40 years ago.

When the building conflict between Poland and Ukraine goes hot...

When some of the enormous third-party arms market ramped up in these countries spills into neighboring Egypt and Turkey...

When someone with a MANPADS and nefarious intent gets within striking distance of a civilian airport...

Shit is going to pop off in a way folks just watching TV and clapping for their favorite team simply aren't prepared for.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Why do folks who want to sound incredulous just sound like they're high as fuck?

That'd be your inner narrative embellishing fucking reality with filigree and lace to fit your shit-ass perspective.

Jim Jefferies said it best: "That's the problem with crazy people; they don't know they're crazy". Way to illustrate his insightful point by telling us you hear our voices in your head, dumbass.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That’d be your inner narrative

Sure thing, Cheech.

[-] nahuse@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

You’re correct about the missteps of US foreign policy.

But your argument is a nonstarter because the people you’re talking about were literal dictators in authoritarian systems.

Ukraine is literally fighting to engage with the liberal West, over authoritarian East, against a foreign aggressor. And it’s done a very good job of keeping and even improving its democratic institutions through this war (I’m referring more to transparency of laws and changes to how corruption is dealt with, specifically).

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

the people you’re talking about were literal dictators in authoritarian systems

We're heading dick first into the meat grinder of another Trump administration. And that's nationally. Nevermind all the tinpot governors we've got running around the Gulf Coast and Midwest. What do you think happens when they're back in charge of the national military again?

That's before we get into the finer points of "authoritarianism" when you're funding a proxy war overseas by rubber stamping a government takeover of a social media company at home.

Ukraine is literally fighting to engage with the liberal West, over authoritarian East, against a foreign aggressor. And it’s done a very good job of keeping and even improving its democratic institutions through this war

They're in a turf war over the Donbas. But the deadline for elections in the Ukraine was constitutionally mandated for March 31st of 2024. We're three weeks past that with no plans for a vote in sight. I would say Ukraine is officially off the board as a "liberal democracy", at least as long as martial law lasts. And with the new arms shipment looking to close off the possibility of a ceasefire, that suggests elections are postponed indefinitely.

[-] nahuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

Ah, so you’re just not inclined to see reason, and toss in a little bit of whataboutism with your replies that minimalize a full scale invasion of a sovereign country as a “turf war.”

It’s my mistake for engaging with an obviously disingenuous poster. You can go fuck yourself.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

you’re just not inclined to see reason

If you think its reasonable to amp up the war machine and then hand it over to Cheeto Mussolini, I guess we're working with different definitions of the phrase.

You can go fuck yourself.

My man, try touching some grass. You're way to invested with this thread.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

"My man, try touching some grass. You're way to invested with this thread."

Says the "person" with at least 15 replies in this thread... See, I may sound high, but at least I can admit when I'm wrong or crazy... You can't even see how sad you are anymore.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] beardown@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

They posted a picture of Obama and Clinton. They aren't Republicans

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

Next, you'll misinterpret 1984 to describe this as a "we were always at war with Oceania" moment".

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