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submitted 2 years ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Far more animals than previously thought likely have consciousness, top scientists say in a new declaration — including fish, lobsters and octopus.

Bees play by rolling wooden balls — apparently for fun. The cleaner wrasse fish appears to recognize its own visage in an underwater mirror. Octopuses seem to react to anesthetic drugs and will avoid settings where they likely experienced past pain. 

All three of these discoveries came in the last five years — indications that the more scientists test animals, the more they find that many species may have inner lives and be sentient. A surprising range of creatures have shown evidence of conscious thought or experience, including insects, fish and some crustaceans. 

That has prompted a group of top researchers on animal cognition to publish a new pronouncement that they hope will transform how scientists and society view — and care — for animals. 

Nearly 40 researchers signed “The New York Declaration on Animal Consciousness,” which was first presented at a conference at New York University on Friday morning. It marks a pivotal moment, as a flood of research on animal cognition collides with debates over how various species ought to be treated.

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[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The thing that makes the most sense to me is some combination of like animism and panpsychism. Then it doesn't matter what may or may not be conscious, basically treat anything like it might be to the most practical level. Though I realize this is crazy talk to most people.

For example, don't destroy stuff and cause what might be harm just for the hell of it.

  • Don't kill a plant because someone called it a "weed"
  • A person using the wood of a tree for warmth, cooking, survival is part of the cycles of the planet. A corporation destroying forests so those in charge of it can skim profits is not.
  • Thank the plants and animals that gave their lives for your food, shelter, and things, and don't waste their lives.
  • Maybe you have a piece of furniture that has history and has been in the family. Maybe it has some sort of spirit we can only partially understand. Maybe spirits come into being sometimes, when an object is built with love, such a a baby is made, or when someone builds a nice table. Destroying that table is more than simply the breaking of wood, it's the loss of a history, a being. A materialist view of the world is so limiting.
[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

You had me up until furniture souls.

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

The mentioning of panpsychism didn’t make you stop?!

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, leaving it at don't casually throw away stuff that cost a plant or animal life would have been fine 😂

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