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submitted 7 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and other European leaders have applauded the US for passing a vital €89 billion aid bill which has been struggling to make it through the House of Representatives for months.

The House swiftly approved roughly €89 billion in foreign aid for Ukraine, Israel and other US allies in a rare Saturday session as Democrats and Republicans banded together after months of hard-right resistance over renewed American support for repelling Russia’s invasion.

With an overwhelming vote, €57 billion in aid for Ukraine passed in a matter of minutes, a strong showing as American lawmakers race to deliver a fresh round of US support to the war-torn ally. Many Democrats cheered on the House floor and waved blue-and-yellow flags of Ukraine.

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[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Did Zelensky really think the US wouldn’t take another chance to play war games? Nah, we like instability too much. Can’t have Russia gaining too much power/resources now. Sorry we’re late, as usual.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

“half” of the political interest in this nation would have preferred to not give Ukraine a penny and allow Russia to take what they want.

Right now there is a very real risk that the USA will stop coming to their aid. I am ASHAMED as a US citizen that right now we’re hemming and hawing about getting involved.

My entire fucking life has been war on foreign soil and NOW when we have a chance to be the honest to god fucking good guys and half of the nation would rather restrict human rights then defend them, it’s sickening.

[-] BabyVi@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

I feel this, it pisses me off so much. The scumbags are jingoistic as fuck up until the conflict is an ANTI-imperialist one.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

the conflict is an ANTI-imperialist one

The conflict has become a litmus test on the left for if someone is actually anti imperialist, or if they just dislike the West

[-] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 2 points 7 months ago

Preach. Those people drive me up the fucking wall. And especially since their idea of praxis is being a dick on the internet and not voting, then claim to be the only true leftists.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, they'll say the system can't be used to fix the system and we need a violent revolution, but they ignore how all the previous leftists successfully made good changes to the system. Civil rights, women's suffrage, gay rights, workers rights -- they were all accomplished through voting and the first amendment.

[-] Lianodel@ttrpg.network 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah. It can be simultaneously true that voting is a fundamentally broken system that will only allow for so much change, and that elections have life-or-death consequences. It can also be simultaneously true that both the parties are terrible, and that the Democrats are less bad.

I would give them more credit if they ever did any organizing, or even talked about organizing, but it's just crabs in a bucket.

Oh, and in another thread, they were complaining about "theft." It was the seizure of Russian assets to fund the defense of Ukraine. They were defending the foreign bank accounts of billionaires. Real clown shit.

[-] julianh@lemm.ee 36 points 7 months ago

The war is already happening regardless of what the us does. Would you rather we just sit back and let Russia destroy ukraine?

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Lots of hate for how the US does business here. But of course I want them to help Ukraine in the end. Doesn’t make all of their politics right. It’s all a big game and if you don’t believe that you’re sadly naive. Our politicians are addicted to the game of chess, it’s not just the power.

[-] ugjka@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago
[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Apparently my main point is getting buried. I agree.

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

That image is very likely to be fake, btw.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I’m American, and can say it’s likely real. There were strong calls for isolationism after WWI. The US waited over two years to join the allies in WWII. It’s important to know of our government’s failures as well as successes, or we face repetition.

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

The Holocaust Memorial Museum disagrees.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Then the museum is wrong. WWII began September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland. The US entered in response to the bombing of Pearl Harbor which occurred on December 7, 1941, over two years later.

[-] Syntha@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

The fuck are you talking about? The historians who investigated the origins of this photo conclude that it is likely to be staged. It's completely irrelevant when the US entered WWII

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