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Whether you're really passionate about RPC, MQTT, Matrix or wayland, tell us more about the protocols or open standards you have strong opinions on!

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 95 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Markdown. Its only in tech-spaces that its preferred, but it should be used everywhere. You can even write full books and academic papers in markdown (maybe with only a few extensions like latex / mathjax).

Instead, in a lot of fields, people are passing around variants of microsoft word documents with weird formatting and no standardization around headings, quotes, and comments.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 20 points 7 months ago

Man, I've written three novels plus assorted shorter form stories in markdown.

There's a learning curve, but once you get going, it's so fluid. The problem is that when it comes time to format for release, you have to convert to something else, and not every word processor can handle markdown. It's extra work, but worth it, imo.

[-] halm@leminal.space 8 points 7 months ago

Just set up pandoc and Bob's your uncle. It'll convert markdown to anything. You'll never have to open another word processor.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nice! Thanks for the tip!

Edit: holy shit, how have I never run across that before? That's a brilliant program right there.

[-] halm@leminal.space 4 points 7 months ago

Pandoc + [your markdown editor of choice] is magic. Some editors even come with Pandoc as a dependency so you can export to more or less anything from the GUI. I think GhostWriter and Zettlr at least (I honestly can't be sure, I've changed editors so often and now I just have some Pandoc conversion scripts in my file manager menu).

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

For sure, I bet full fledged editors like word don't even let you import it.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Not correctly, no. Librewriter does a bit better, but still misses some bits

[-] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Silly question why can’t you convert markdown to PDF and pass that to publishers?

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Because it isn't doc is docx.

Publishers are pissy about such things. Even self publishing (which is what I do now), the various outlets still have limits to what they will use. Amazon accepts something like three file formats, including their own, and pdf isn't on the list.

I could just do pdf for directly giving them away to people, but even then, epub is usually a better pick in terms of readability since that's the standard for actual books since ereaders tend to display it better than pdfs. Most people reading books via files would be using something that can give a better experience with epub vs pdf.

[-] fenndev@leminal.space 12 points 7 months ago

I think Obsidian and Logseq are helping to change this.

[-] halm@leminal.space 8 points 7 months ago

I frigging love markdown for everything!

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

My main wishlist for markdown, is a better live collaborative markdown editor. Hedgedoc works, but it's showing it's age, and they don't seem to be getting close to releasing v2.

Etherpad also has a markdown extension, but it doesn't import / export that well.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

Markdown is awesome, I agree! I did not realize you could extend markdown with anything other than html. The html extension is quite nice to do anything that markdown doesn't support natively, but I wish there was an easier way to extend markdown. Maybe the ones you listed are what I need.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Hedgedoc / hackmd support a good amount of extensions out of the box. I think typora and obsidias do also (but not open source).

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Depends on the type of book. Since you need HTML for all non default styles. Therefore, it raises the bar... you need a bit of web dev knowledge which removes the biggest benefit of markdown: simplicity / ease of use.

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 6 points 7 months ago

It is too basic. I guess something more full-fledged like... typst?

[-] technom@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago

Typst is a typesetting format - an alternative to LaTeX. Asciidoc is more of a competitor to markdown.

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 months ago

Learning that currently.

[-] veaviticus@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

ReST (restructured text) is a good middle ground. I just wish it had more support outside of the python community. It could use some new/better tooling than Sphinx

[-] misnad@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago
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