294
confused carnist noises.
(lemmy.world)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 18 Apr 2024
294 points (100.0% liked)
Vegan
2991 readers
1 users here now
An online space for the vegans of Lemmy.
Rules and miscellaneous:
- We take for granted that if you engage in this community, you understand that veganism is about the animals. You either are vegan for the animals, or you are not (this is not to say that discussions about climate/environment/health are not allowed, of course)
- No omni/carnist apologists. This is not a place where to ask to be hand-holded into veganims. Omnis coddling/backpatting is not tolerated, nor are /r/DebateAVegan-like threads
- Use content warnings and NSFW tags for triggering content
- Circlejerking belongs to /c/vegancirclejerk
- All posts should abide by Lemmy's Code of Conduct
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
The soy thing is just a dumb meme right? I'm having trouble imagining a person stupid enough to actually have that concern.
(Just to clarify so no one infers bad intent behind my question, I do think veganism is cool and good.)
Oh yeah they think that.
I've never heard of or heard someone say that. Though I eat meat so I guess I wouldn't be the target audience?
I guess that's true. I've never given a thought about veganism until I became one 8 years ago. You'd hear the dumbest things, even how the "vegetables" vegans are eating aren't healthy, but when Miriam from HR eats a salad it's because she wants to lose weight and get healthy.
I was a victim of the meat propaganda as well. I hate there's ads for meat and dairy on every corner. I hate grocery stores for this reason too (all the smiling cartoon animals, apart from the meat there's little real animal about it).
I am fine and I am healthy. When proteinpowderboy 2035 comes and says I am not because I don't eat the chimken I can do nothing more than roll my eyes.
Seeing stuff like this online is funny, because I do relate strongly. I felt the same when I became an atheist, after living the first 20 years of my life in a very religious town.
Yeah, it's really interesting how easy it can be to not notice stuff like this until you end up in the group. I obviously haven't had the experience around vegan stuff, but have with other things.
Personally I just can't get over the overbearing hostility from some people, both vegans at me whenever i admit that I'm not one, and also other non vegans who are weirdly mean to vegans. But hey, i guess not everyone is gonna get along.
Guess it's part of the bubble too. People who end up on the other side of what the general population is doing are prone to turn into zealots.
The same happens in a lot of FOSS communities.
It's not an accident you don't notice!! You are being intentionally manipulated to be a profitable and guilt-free consumer, but also, you're being told lies you want to believe. Things look entirely different once you successfully pull your head out of your ass and psychologically take responsibility for the atrocity to sentient, sapient creatures that you are causing.
That's by far not the worst theorie i heard.
I’ve personally had someone say that to me about soy milk.
I mean it does seem to contain phytoestrogens which are plant based molecules that act as estrogens so no but I really doubt it would have a noticeable effect.
It also wouldn't surprise me if the phytoestrogens get denatured when cooked. (I do not know what phytoestrogens look like chemically, please correct me if I'm wrong about them likely being denatured)