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Okay, I get what you're saying, but to call the Affordable Care Act "Universal Healthcare" is like calling one of those meal boxes from Taco Bell an all-you-can-eat buffet
While I do agree with what you say, the post is about goals, not achievements. It's an important distinction, and Obama did have universal healthcare as a goal.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jun/11/obama-administration-universal-healthcare-reform
Gee, I wonder WHO was taking actions to prevent that from coming out as universal healthcare. And I wonder WHICH SIDE of the aisle they were on.
Per usual - it was Biden, rushing to the aid of republicans to assist with their agenda. Which in this case was watering down their own healthcare proposal in order to remove the public option. In fact, he conceded this portion of the bill before any negotiations had even begun, as a “show of good faith” toward his Republican colleagues. Thanks Biden.
I think you're letting Joe Lieberman get away
Obama also campaigned that he would codify abortion into law, got elected, and then said it was not a priority. Then didn't do anything to protect reproductive rights.
This image is complete propaganda.
Obama goal: ~~end FPTP so the 2000 election doesn't happen again and again~~ Short term easily reversible promises
Biden goal: what democracy, and how exactly
A democracy where someone can lose the popular vote and still get elected president, and where a minority can hold both chambers of Congress, clearly
It's a democracy we must fight to protect.
And by fight, I might go on the Internet and complain that other people aren't voting hard enough.
Broke: Republicans
Woke: Democrats
Bespoke: Cum
If he is to be believed (and that is certainly up to debate), Obama's goal was universal healthcare, and his compromise was the ACA.
Personally I think as soon as the public option was gutted this compromise failed to meet what was sought out by the goal, so I don't think it should be counted at all as achieving that goal, but I don't think it's inherently disingenuous to make the claim that Obama wanted universal healthcare... I guess he just didn't want it enough.
People hate finding out the ACA is the Republican plan based on Romney's healthcare system from MA.
Well we couldn't know what it said til they passed it. "Call it the stupidity of the American voter"
Obama supported the public option which would have been a form of universal healthcare. It was axed because Joe Lieberman spent months grandstanding and then Ted Kennedy died.
Postal 2 was right to teach us all to hate that dude
Lieberman threatened to join Republicans in filibuster to kill the public option and Obama's response was "Okay, we'll just pull that piece for you, no problem."
Gee, thanks, you jerk. Now I want one of those meal boxes from Taco Bell.