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What Would Jesus Do?
(lemmy.world)
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Not who you're replying to, but I'll attempt a diplomatic answer.
Many (not all) atheists and theists alike lack the capacity to separate fact and faith in their worldviews, and see them as conflicting with one another.
But some people see them as entirety separate realms that do not interact. For us science and fact is based on knowledge and impiricism, whereas faith is based on the unknowable.
Thatbis, something cannot be known AND believed. If it can be known, it's in the realm of science. If it cannot be known it is the realm of faith. They don't conflict because they are entirely separate, and pitting them against each other is like arguing about the conflict between Wayne Gretsky and Renee Descartes.
It's more that Theists attack Atheists for believing absolutely in nothing, instead of not believing anything unproven.
And there's the disconnect. If it can be proven it can't be believed.
If you don't believe in something unproven, then you don't believe in anything at all.
And that's fine, by the way.
You're taking statements beyond their logical extremes, ad absurdum. You can believe facts that have moumtains of evidence, and not believe stories with no evidence, and be perfectly rational and believe in things.
Belief is accepting something without evidence. If you have evidence, belief isn't necessary, because you know it.
Saying you won't accept anything without evidence is saying you don't hold any beliefs at all. But nobody is really like that. Atheists believe all kinds of things.
The part that trips people up is when something is unknown but knowable. That is where someone can have belief without having faith.
Faith is for stuff that is not and never can be empirically known.