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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

So uh... Have you seen a planned parenthood clinic in the last 20 years? They have escorts for a reason.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago

So would you agree there should be rules about protestors blocking access to planned parenthood? Or is it perfectly fine the way the system is right now, just allowing them to threaten and harass everyone going inside for unhindered rights or assembly?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Oh so now the road protestors are threatening and harassing the people in the cars instead of just telling signs at them and holding signs?

Lmao.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Literally no one said that. I fully support anyone wishing to protest against Israel's treatment of Palestine and the hypocritical enabling of the democrats. The issue being discussed is whether or not certain rights and freedoms should have rules attached to it.

Blocking a bridge, people say there should not be rules against it because they need to be a disruption to be heard properly. Some people say certain rules preventing the right of assembly should be allowed in certain cases, like blocking hospital access or creating buffer zones around schools and abortion clinics.

Some people say there shouldn't be any rules at all preventing any rights from being expressed.

I'm of the opinion that blocking traffic shouldn't be allowed for protesting peacefully. Line the edges and walkways of the bridge and be as visible as you want with large vibrant signs and megaphones, but don't stand in the street preventing people from getting to work.

Others disagree and simply say that it's a right to do it, but then they are fine with attaching certain rules to other rights like preventing hate speech. It's simply a matter of trying to find where the line should be drawn.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

You said it. This entire thing is in the context of protestors blocking the road. Either that or you're trying to deflect rather than deal with the actual issue.

Emergency vehicles just drive up the other side of the road.

And no. Your daily commute just isn't that important. Protests that don't get seen don't mean anything. Pushing people out of sight for your convenience effectively destroys the first amendment.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Please try to develop some reading comprehension.

In the context of

So would you agree there should be rules about protestors blocking access to planned parenthood? Or is it perfectly fine the way the system is right now, just allowing them to threaten and harass everyone going inside for unhindered rights or assembly?

It was in direct reply to your comment about planned parenting protestors.

In none of my comments am I bashing the bridge protestors other than saying they should not be allowed to block traffic, and the right of assembly should have rules and regulations to determine "proper" and "improper" forms of protest.

I don't even know what you are arguing about.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

That the second you make proper and improper forms of peaceful protest you've abrogated the first amendment and made violence inevitable. Peaceful protest is the bedrock of all our rights. The people in power already routinely try to neutralize it so they can control the narrative. There's no reason to make it easier for them. We cried foul when the Bush administration trundled the protestors off to free speech zones for security concerns. The convenience of some car drivers doesn't even begin to rate.

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