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What do you think happens if I do that?
Actual progress towards changing the Democratic party instead of consenting to it's right wing policies that are enabled by your vote.
I did that in 2016 and it didn’t progress shit. It made it worse like it will if we do that this year. I organized and pushed leftists in primaries and I was beaten by "moderates." Specifically, nobody had a chance against the incumbent. It fucking sucks but I don’t want a declared fascist putting more assholes on judicial benches or pushing anti-trans, anti-women policies.
I’m with you on both parties sucking. But please, grow up. If you want to help, do it before the nominees are set. And don’t drag others into your misguided principles.
Did your lazy ass do anything else?
Jill Stein is a good candidate in a historically weak election for the ruling class.
I've gotten dozens of people to vote Green in my state, what have you done?
"There are dozens of us." lol
wtf have I done? I already said. Organized and gotten people elected to school boards, city council, and our mayor too. We primaried for state and federal elections but didn’t get our candidates. We didn’t pout and waste our votes on people who had no chance of getting elected. We sucked it the fuck up and tried to make sure Republicans didn’t get elected.
I don't believe you at all. Any person informed enough to do what you said knows voting for Democrats only makes out situation worse by consenting to neoliberal capitalism. None of the hundreds of people affiliated with the Green party I've met have said that, so you're lying.
Tell me you're not a pregnant woman who needs obstetric care of any kind or a capitol policeman or trans or Hispanic or a person who's trying to get sick days from their union or a Ukrainian
Yes, everyone knows that simply not consenting to the system suddenly makes it go away. Just ask anyone who's ever been on a traffic stop -- you just have to tell the policeman you do not consent, and all of a sudden, everything changes, and it works out better that you didn't go along with the system.
If only the civil rights movement had been privy to this knowledge, they could have done their decades of work to make the system better much more simply and easily
Dems can't fix that or they won't be able to run on it anymore. They have plenty of opportunities especially the super majority under Obama.
Never made that argument, bad gaslighting attempt. Green part hits even 5% and Dems start doing what you want.
This actually goes against your argument, civil violence was the only reason anything happened for that movement, and you're advocating for voting for Dems and not getting in the streets.
Well, that’s just a bad argument.
Good day, sir.
Fake lefty trying to scrounge up votes for your capitalist daddy Dems
I've been looking through your comments and have confirmed you are a fake. Where can I see any evidence of your "efforts" to help the Green party?
Project 2025, stupid. Letting Trump win means no progressive wins again in this country. Anti progress.
Imagine thinking you're defending democracy by voting for someone you don't want. LOL
Wow, you can type the opposite thing that someone said and pretend that you have a point. How incredibly stupid of you.
What exactly is Biden's plan to avoid letting a progressive win in the country ever again? Because Trump is the one with Project 2025.
Imagine thinking you’re defending democracy by voting for someone you don’t want. LOL
I, on the other hand, express democracy by voting for a candidate that I support, Jill Stein.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/dnc-war-third-party-candidates-rcna143290
But Jill Stein is not going to win, even if you vote for her. Voting for her works against your interests.
My interest is growing the Green party so it is in my interests to vote for her, and convince others to do the same so Dems will feel threatened enough to help poor people.
If you want the Green Party to grow, then you should do the best you can to prevent Trump's lackeys from totally hijacking the executive branch and instilling actual literal fascism.
You know, the more of your comments I read, the more I'm pretty sure you're a Russian troll
Yes, in the 1,460 days between elections. On election day, you should take the action that's most likely to result in the best outcome, and this year it is too late for anyone other than Biden or Trump to win.
Where have you been? I've been supporting, donating, gather votes. You're a fraud.
Hey wait a second that link only details democrats' plans to beat 3rd party candidates in this election, not a plan to instill actual literal fascism, gutting environmental regulations, and ensuring that no one can reimpose those regulations for as long as this country remains this country
Did you even read the link you sent?