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[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

You're not a "raging leftist" if you vote for Biden. At least vote PSL or Green

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

This post is about you, you idiot.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago

What do you think happens if I do that?

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Actual progress towards changing the Democratic party instead of consenting to it's right wing policies that are enabled by your vote.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I did that in 2016 and it didn’t progress shit. It made it worse like it will if we do that this year. I organized and pushed leftists in primaries and I was beaten by "moderates." Specifically, nobody had a chance against the incumbent. It fucking sucks but I don’t want a declared fascist putting more assholes on judicial benches or pushing anti-trans, anti-women policies.

I’m with you on both parties sucking. But please, grow up. If you want to help, do it before the nominees are set. And don’t drag others into your misguided principles.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Project 2025, stupid. Letting Trump win means no progressive wins again in this country. Anti progress.

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[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

You're not a "raging leftist" if you vote for Biden. At least ~~vote PSL or Green~~ use a brutal domestic terrorism campaign as leverage to blackmail politicians into overturning first-past-the-post as part of a multi-prong strategy that, even as extreme as you are, still includes a pragmatic hedge in the form of a vote for the lesser of two evils

Of course nobody should be terrorizing anyone. What I’m riffing off of is a perspective someone shared that basically you don’t protest with a vote for a loser, you protest by agitating for systemic change.

In the meantime while the broken system is in place, you feed it a minimally shitty input.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Do you think being incredibly stupid is a prereq for being a raging leftist or something?

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Do you think being incredibly stupid is a prereq for being a raging leftist or something?

It is a prereq for voting for Biden

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

No, understanding how the voting system works isn't stupid

[-] goldenlocks@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You misunderstand the voting system because you vote for someone you don't like.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The best available choice isn't always one that you want to make. It's fine to hate the idea of voting strategically, I hate it too, but it's naive to think you can positively affect the system by going with the option you want the most.

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