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[-] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I can understand looking back to them for some useful stuff. "Commieblock" housing served a purpose at the time, for example. They brought huge masses of people into an urban environment with indoor plumbing, electricity, and climate control, which were not a given in their previous living situations. They were meant as an interim solution to last a few decades. For what they set out to do, they were a great success. The only problem was that the followup to better options was never done.

But the Leninist/Maoists can never leave it at pulling out successes like that. It's almost always "America bad", "Holodomor isn't real", or "Cuba only sucks because of sanctions".

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 13 points 8 months ago

you kinda had me in the first half, ngl.

america is bad, research by anticommunist historians after the fall of the soviet union lead to the irrefutable conclusion that holodomor isn't real (holodomor means intentional genocidal famine, not just that there was a famine that lots of people died in) and cuba has problems but the main reason it sucks is because of sanctions.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 19 points 8 months ago

Famine because of bad policy is not a win, either. That's the best case interpretation. However, there are plenty of tankies who will tell you there were no mass deaths at all.

[-] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago

may i see the tankies saying there was no mass death during the famine? I have never in many years of interacting with communists heard someone say that.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 18 points 8 months ago

Sure, I'll just wade through a decade of Reddit comments to find some to satisfy your curiosity.

[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Maybe don't make shit up then if you don't have examples

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