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how can one get consent for non-consensual exams?
also: wtf bad touch
It’s awkwardly written but I imagine it’s the difference between “I consent to this at an undefined but bounded time in the future” vs “I consent to this right now or at this predetermined single moment in time”.
Alternatively it could be “exams that would previously been non-consensual.”
Surgery can have complications, so the patient may be under anesthesia longer than originally planned delaying the practice exam.
It's worse. They actually didn't require any consent for pelvic exams before. They could just have med students in there watching and not even tell you about it. So if you've ever had surgery in a teaching hospital, it's totally possible you had a bunch of interns gawking at your undercarriage without knowing it. Fuckin horrific, right?
Oh, I’m well aware as my other comment indicates.
It's more than awkwardly written. It's stupidly written. I understand the subject matter, but acting like nonconsensual exams will now have consent is silly. How could they?
Take the word "nonconsensual" out of the headline and it describes accurately what has occurred. Or rephrase to "nonconsensual pelvic exams no longer allowed."
I wonder how this is handled in emergency situations. Im in EMS and we practice under implied consent if the patient is unresponsive. Can't say I've ever been on a call where I've needed to inspect someone's genitals outside of a quick look for priapism/injury but it might be a thing in the ER
Probably different if there’s a justified direct connection between the procedure and necessary care to preserve life.