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[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

then yeah, I’d still call you out for this, because “what if…” is still empowering bigots who want to exclude us, based on made up scenarios.

I disagree with you on this. I have no problem answering "what if" questions regarding misinformation about my own circumstances.

“Trans people have no track record of consistently out performing cis people in any sport at any level. Literally every example you can think of is a misrepresentation by a media more interested in controversy than fact. Those are your facts”

Cool beans. I missed that. Thanks.

You are telling me that your opinion, and the opinion of others on whether we should have the same basic rights to inclusion as everyone else, is dependent on how politely I raise my points with you?

No, because I would have reacted the same way if you said the same things politely. "Excuse me, my young lemming, but with the utmost respect I'm afraid to tell you that you are nothing but an exclusionist, and I hope you accept my declaration that everything points out towards your person never being capable of changing your position." I would have preferred you to say "hey you stupid misinformed bozo, are you ready for some schooling can of whoop-ass?"

Why must I concede that? At the community sports level, inclusion is more important.

You don't accept hypothetical scenarios in a discussion, and I do. We will never align. And that's okay. I'm done with this discussion. Continue being a happy, dense mod and yes, feel free to keep thinking whatever you want to think about me. Peace and happiness to you.

[-] ada 2 points 7 months ago

I have no problem answering “what if” questions regarding misinformation about my own circumstances.

That's cool for you, but you're not trans and don't face exclusion based on the misguided assumptions people have about you. You don't have bigots actively generating "what if" debates to try and normalise exclusion towards you.

To you, it's just a sometimes thing. For me, it's an active part of a campaign driven by people trying to remove our rights, and it's explicitly designed to sound reasonable, and be repeated innocently by people who don't know any better.

This is all hypothetical to you. To me, it's a tool used to hurt me and my community.

[-] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Nah, not true. Your characterization of me is incorrect, and your insistence on it makes you dense and surprisingly narrow-minded. I'll keep responding as long as you continue, but I'm done with this conversation. Have a nice life.

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