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submitted 8 months ago by leraje to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

in 2018, Facebook told Vox that it doesn't use private messages for ad targeting. But a few months later, The New York Times, citing "hundreds of pages of Facebook documents," reported that Facebook "gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ private messages."

Surprising? No. Appalling? Yes.

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[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 6 points 8 months ago

Good luck being private when your phone number is attached to all your messages. I'll see you on Wire.

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago

here's your daily reminder not to conflate privacy with anonymity.

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 6 points 8 months ago
[-] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago

No. That doesn't eliminate the need to use a phone number! It's just 'hidden'.

[-] Undertaker@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

That's not the point. It was statet that each message is associated with the number. But it isn't. The only way to achieve this in Signal is getting into your phone.

[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 8 months ago

Wow you don't know how to read.

Phone numbers are still required and Signal got a lot of shit for it.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago

Phone numbers are still required

But are they still attached to messages?

[-] sqgl@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

I'll see you on Wire.

Or SimpleX

[-] 0xtero@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Something something Privacy vs. Anonymity. But I invite you to try. Good luck getting into my phone!

[-] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Man sitting at library table: tap tap tap tap tap

Couple behind him: starts arguing violently, creating massive distraction

Man at table: awww mannn

Let me know how that Killswitch on your phone works, hope you configured the power button shutdown press time from the default 10 seconds to 2 seconds, because SWAT can throw a flash bang through your window and have their boot on your neck before you're able to navigate the shutdown screen.

Note: I am in no way siding with any government agency, only stressing that they know about encryption, and their goal is to get you on the ground before you have a chance to shut your phone off. Even if you do manage to turn it off in time, hopefully your phone has the latest and greatest in anti-coldboot technology. I don't know that GrapheneOS or any security mods wipe RAM.

[-] 0xtero@beehaw.org 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Oh boy. Some of you people watch too many movies.

Let's get some basic stuff established:

  • This thread is about commercial platforms selling your direct message data. That's the threat model.
  • I don't live in a country where the police SWAT teams throw flashbangs without court orders
  • If the authorities want to get to me (which, again, is not the threat model of this thread). They can. Easily. They know where I live. They just have to knock on the door. It's not even locked.
  • I did, to my best knowledge, not reply to you in anywhere this thread. I'm not sure why you are replying to me.

But sure. I'll give you this: If your threat model is dodging SWAT team flashbangs, I doubt using Signal is much use to you at that point. That just wasn't what this thread was talking about.

[-] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Good luck getting into my phone!

That's what I was referring to. I'm glad you live in a country where that scenario seems movie-like but I live in the land of the free.

[-] 0xtero@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago
[-] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah I went overboard.

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