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Now, I am not American and don't really follow the news, but to me it looks like a 'Government shutdown' is averted every few months. Is this normal?
It happens whenever Republicans control one house of Congress and there is a Democrat President. It's an obstruction tactic based on the lie that they care about increasing the national debt. That concern disappears when a Republican is President (Trump increased debt by $7 trillion).
The longest shutdown we’ve ever had started when the GOP controlled the House AND the Senate AND Trump was president.
(2018-2019 Shutdown)
That's because Republicans are incapable of governing, and can't think of anything new so they repeat things they did in the past regardless of context.
No. The Republicans use it as a cudgel to get the spending cuts and other harmful legislation passed.
It always backfires spectacularly on them. They've lost every election since 2018 because of it and people waking up to the fact they are women hating racists too.
It happens all the time in America, which is not normal and it feels like the government's on its last legs
At this point, it is normal, but definitely shouldn't be. We keep "averting" shutdowns mainly because Republicans don't know how to govern. But also because all congresspersons don't know how to cooperate and get over their petty bullshit.
No, it’s a catastrophic failure on our government’s part. We’ve had government shutdowns before, it was a tactic of our right wing party but now they’ve been passing temporary budgets this past year and it’s just a complete shitshow
Every October we start a "fiscal year" and because we don't plan ahead we do one year at a time.
So October 1st every year a new budget takes effect.
But the House. Senate, and president all need to agree on a single budget, which often includes random shit.
Like, this one bans aid to UNRW till 2025 based on Israeli Intel we know was false and obtained via torture. But it's in this budget.
So unless the same party controlls all three of those parts of our government, they can never agree on a budget, which means constantly passing "interm budgets" so that the government keeps running.
Sometimes those interm budgets aren't enough and leads to partial government shutdowns. In 2019 the Coast Guard went a month without pay checks. So sometimes it's a big deal. Other times people are just forced to take paid leave because it's paid out of a different allocation.
But it makes it even harder for agencies to plan, the more long term you can plan, the better. But these short term continuing resolutions essentially make agencies operate "paycheck to paycheck".
So...
Unfortunately, yeah. It has been for a while now. But we do get a few years here and there where we easily pass the budget on 10/1.
You'll probably start hearing about the next one coming Sept 1st for the pregame.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/09/13/congress-has-long-struggled-to-pass-spending-bills-on-time/ seems to have a pretty decent grasp of the history warts mostly included if anyone wants more info.
The current process was established in 1974. Not everyone gets furloughed for every shutdown, and it's worth noting the government is the biggest employer in the country iirc & manages social security benefits, and taxes don't stop while the shutdown happens. Basically it's a huge mess and the '74 law needs serious reform to require Congress to compromise on a budget again as a requirement of their role.
Ridiculously expensive as well.
Sometimes we'll hear about "they'll get paid later, it's fine".
But to push all those payments out ASAP at a moments notice it costs millions in overtime. Just burning money for no reason.
We need to have general budgets for like a decade at a time. Build in adjustments for inflation, but if anything major changes during that decade, just have a process for doing amendments for that shit.
The basic ahit is safe and agencies can be proactive instead of reactive. Hell, require the budget be finalized a year before implementation even.
This shit sucks so bad it's legitimately not hard to think of a better system
Republican antics.
It is the "new normal" yes.