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The US Department of Justice and 16 state and district attorneys general accused Apple of operating an illegal monopoly in the smartphone market in a new antitrust lawsuit. The DOJ and states are accusing Apple of driving up prices for consumers and developers at the expense of making users more reliant on its iPhones.

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[-] iopq@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Actually it coincided with IPX rating for smartphones. The last headphone jack smartphones did not have water resistance, but the newer models did. People voted for a more sealed phone with their wallets.

These days you can get both, but my phone has a 3.5mm jack and NO ipx rating that I could find

[-] gian@lemmy.grys.it 20 points 9 months ago

Actually it coincided with IPX rating for smartphones. The last headphone jack smartphones did not have water resistance, but the newer models did. People voted for a more sealed phone with their wallets.

My rugged phone is IP68 but it has Usb C connector and SIM/SD tray, so adding a headphone jack while having an IPX rating seems not impossible.

[-] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago

My phone has IP68 with an usb-c and headphone jack, and the SIM/SD tray. Not a rugged phone though.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

It's not impossible, they just didn't do it back then so we ended up in the situation we are in now. By the way, the DAC in my phone is low quality, so I hear popping and distortion when I play

http://plasticity.szynalski.com/

at the same time, my phone doesn't do output to a DAC through USB because it already has a 3.5mm port, so I can't use something higher quality

[-] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think DAC is reason behind popping and distortion. Probably shit power circuit or amplifier.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's both, because I hear little bells in the background even at low volume. An IEM is very sensitive so needs very little power, the amplifier will perform worse as it needs to output more power.

In fact when I use over ears, it sounds better because I increase the device volume which increases the input voltage

Anyway, the $9 Apple dongle blows my phone's 3.5mm jack out of the water. My tablet and desktop have the same issue, but when I connect the same devices to my ancient laptop they sound perfect.

The point is the 3.5mm jack actually gets me worse sound quality because my phone doesn't output audio to usb, so I only use it with my TWS. Which, by the way, also sound like crap in the same game, but it might just be Bluetooth issues

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

People voted for a more sealed phone with their wallets.

LOL imagine if capitalism actually worked this way...

Edit: People seem to be missing the point. I am aware that phones with 3.5mm jacks exist. I also just understand that capitalism and "free markets" don't actually work the way people seem to think they do. Maybe if the headphone jack was the most important feature to people, it would do better. Or maybe if it was an mp3 player and not a phone. Or maybe, simply, if it was manufactured by a brand people have heard of. Sometimes it's literally that simple.

But that isn't the case, is it?

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

There are still phones with 3.5mm jacks and they are not the best selling models

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

Maybe people aren't spending $500-$1200 on a device just because it has a headphone jack. Like that's anyone's top concern.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Zen phone 10 has everything you need and a 3.5mm jack

Why isn't it outselling the rest of them?

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are you asking me to explain microeconomics to you? Ask 100 people in the US if they've ever heard of Zen Phone, and 99 will tell you no.

And, again, that's nobody's top concern. Maybe if it was an mp3 player, rather than a phone, whether or not it has a headphone jack would be higher up on the priority list.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

If it was that important, people would have heard about it

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago
[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

So 3.5mm is actually a complaint from a loud minority

It never became a major selling point for the phones that still have it

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

There are literally phones still around with 3.5 jacks. You just don't want one.

[-] Alpha71@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Then why can they waterproof the usb plug-in but not the headphone jack?

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