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[-] gullible@fedia.io 88 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Are kids disallowed from hanging out in parks, school clubs, or others’ homes now? What’s changed?

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 72 points 11 months ago

Nothing, it's a ridiculous argument as a rationalization for arguing against the tiktok ban. I've seen a number of posts today trying to paint it as some attach on democracy or youth culture. The fact is that tiktok captures a giant amount of data and is directly accessible by a hostile foreign government. The ban makes sense.

[-] pop@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

The ban makes sense because companies in the US tried and failed horribly to gain traction in their youths. And it was critical of western governments being complicit in war crimes in Palestine.

Tell me, before tiktok, how many war crimes US commited were conveniently swept under the rug without consequences?

Can't have public be aware of that, can we now?

But US wants to shape the narratives for the rest of the world with facebook, instagram and twitter and others. Failing to do that in their own country, they want to ban it as a last ditch resort. Can't have narratives that don't align with their propaganda and be critical of their military industrial complexes.

But you do you. I have no horse in the race but I love the outrage when people are on the receiving end of "foreign influence in social media". Not like social media companies in the US were surveilling rest of the world for the last decade.

And it's not like US hasn't done this to Japan when it was going to become a better economy before.

Cope.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Wow, what a bunch of crap. Are you really, really holding up tiktok as a bastion of truth? Are you not aware of the many was crimes that US soldiers have been involved with that have sparked global outage, way before tiktok existed, because there really is a free press?

The US doesn't have soldiers in Gaza, it's not commiting war crimes there. You can make a good case that the arms were providing to an ally are being used to commit a genocide, which is plenty bad enough, but don't weaken the term "war crime" by using it inappropriately. And it's not like people are only finding out about it through tiktok. Go read NPR and you'll see quite a lot about it. Read AP. Read Reuters.

But sure, go trust a site whose algorithms are controlled by the Chinese government and think that you aren't being manipulated. You do you.

[-] owen@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly... if you want news - go to the sources of news. If you want funny dances and horribly acted skits - go to social media

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

parks

A bunch of teenagers hanging out in a park will probably have the cops called on them

school clubs

The budgets for clubs have been cut. Also, there's no school in the summer

others' homes

If you don't drive there's no way to get there.

[-] entropicshart@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago

Glad to see someone pointing this out.

There are so many beautiful parks that are within walking distance or a short bike/bus ride.

How about libraries or all of the game shops that host free events for everyone to join?

Get your head out of your phone and see the life around you!

[-] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 11 months ago

I think it's very regional. Libraries and parks are going to get the first cuts when local government tightens its belts, they're often save havens for the unhoused or those otherwise let down by society, and together that means in many areas they're seen as maybe not unsafe, but not places overprotective parents want their kids going.

[-] owen@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Absolutely. In fact, I have found that areas with the most disposable income also get the best city funding. So the people who can afford to pay for third spaces (restaurants, clubs, golfing) also have the nicest local parks and public spaces.

In my city, the low-income area local parks are literally paved with concrete and next to train tracks, busy streets and/or factories. It's utterly bullshit

[-] anon987@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Tiktok spun up the Chinese disinformation bots

[-] gullible@fedia.io 1 points 11 months ago

TikTok suggested that its users should petition politicians and the public to prevent its punitive purchase. It’s just kids with degenerating attention spans.

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