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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

And not voting ends up being support for more genocide

Just as I said, your logic works in a situation where either options are reasonable OR, I would add, if there's more than two options and governments are made of coalitions so you can vote for someone that will influence the party with the most vote to move in the direction that you want so they can form the government.

Neither options apply to the USA at the moment.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And not voting ends up being support for more genocide

I'm voting for Biden. I also know that if he wants the votes of people for whom genocide is a dealbreaker, he needs to stop supporting genocide.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

These people would be hypocrites if they didn't vote for him as letting Trump win means more genocide as he'll do nothing about Gaza and leave Ukraine to fend for itself whereas a Democrat can at least be convinced to change his stance.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ok. So they're hypocrites.

If Biden wants their votes, he needs to break with the pro-genocide centrist wing of his party and stop supporting genocide. I know this will bitterly disappoint every last centrist Democrat, but you can lecture them that they can't always get everything they want and that they need to vote blue no matter who.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Then these people have no right to complain when things get worse.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's not like you want anyone who isn't 100% on board with genocide to have any right to complain now.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

No, I don't want anyone who doesn't vote or get personally involved in politics to complain about the people who get elected.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

If you say so. Frankly it just looks like you want anyone who doesn't like Biden's support for Netanyahu's genocide to shut up.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

People can not like it all they want, letting Trump take his place by not voting is just virtue signalling and pure idiocy.

"I didn't vote for this guy because he supports Israel!"

"Ok buddy, because of people like you the person now in power supports Israel, stopped support for Ukraine, is attacking women and minority rights... But hey, at least you didn't vote for someone who supports Israel, right?"

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Like so.

I'm voting for Biden. He should stop supporting genocide.

You should too.

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