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President Biden told a Democratic lawmaker and members of his Cabinet after the State of the Union address that he told Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that they will need to have a “come-to-Jesus meeting.”

Biden’s comments, captured on a hot mic as he spoke with Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.) on the floor of the House chamber, came after Bennet congratulated the commander in chief on his speech and pressed him to keep pressure on Netanyahu over increasing humanitarian issues in Gaza.

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[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well the fact that he allowed record oil extraction under his watch says that he doesn't take it as seriously as he should.

I don't support Biden for a lot of reasons. One of which being I'm Canadian. Trump is worse than Biden. Does that allow me to pass your purity test? Do you have anything at all of substance to add to my comment or just fucking argumentative bullshit?

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well the fact that he allowed record oil extraction under his watch says that he doesn't take it as seriously as he should.

Got it. So there are two talking points which are commonly brought up to say Biden did a bad job on the climate; this is one of them. This, in contrast, is an actual summary of what he's done; among other things, it claims there's a Democratic theory that the big climate bill puts us on track for a 40% reduction in emissions by 2030. I don't know if that's accurate, but those are the terms in which I think it's sensible to analyze his actions on climate: What is the expected impact? As opposed to, what's some individual fact that is cherry-picked for maximum argumentation impact, and then repeated consistently without context (in this case, used to argue that he doesn't take it seriously when he made massive climate legislation into a priority early on in his presidency.)

Does that allow me to pass your purity test? Do you have anything at all of substance to add to my comment or just fucking argumentative bullshit?

Sorry, what? My comment wasn't real polite, but it's not like there wasn't a productive point to it.

I suspect your original comment of being made in bad faith. Your response to my question about the climate, which does not include detailed analysis of what's going on, but does fit lock-and-key into one of the two active talking points about "why Biden is bad for the climate," furthers that suspicion.

You're obviously not obligated to talk with me further about it. I was just curious. You're free to say whatever you want.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

So you literally have nothing to add about Biden and Israel. Shocking.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 8 months ago

Just take the L and move to some other debate pls

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I started the thread. You've done nothing but try and derail. Do you have any thoughts on the structuring (illegal by the way) of arms sales to Israel or are you a troll?

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 8 months ago

I just noticed that about 8-10 upvotes dropped all at once to your comments in this exchange, and a similar number of downvotes all at once to mine. Would it offend you if I investigated in some detail where all those votes came from?

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

No that's sketchy as fuck and I'm thinking one of the other 2 guys think they're being funny. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about in terms of investigation though, sherlock.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 8 months ago

A whole bunch of people with 3-week-old accounts really developed strong feelings about who's right on the issue about 25 minutes ago 🙂. Which other 2 guys do you mean; FuglyDuck and someone else?

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Deceptichum potentially. I only have one account, I came during rexit.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 4 points 8 months ago
[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I thought I had too much time on my hands lol

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 8 months ago

I get curious and invest some time into investigating these things sometimes. Seems like a better investment of the energy than playing the rabbit-season-duck-season-rabbit-season-duck-season game.

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