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submitted 10 months ago by mossy_capivara@midwest.social to c/196

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[-] will_steal_your_username 49 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What's with all the tankies recently? If they wanted to change things for the better they would organize and vote for biden, even if he sucks. The organizing is the important part anyways, voting is just damage control.

EDIT: In case it was unclear, I do not mean organize to vote for biden.

EDIT: I am an idiot. This is a primary. Don't vote for biden if there is a better candidate.

[-] mossy_capivara@midwest.social 35 points 10 months ago

People are organizing the uncommitted campaign to get Biden to stop giving billions to support an active genocide

[-] will_steal_your_username 4 points 10 months ago

:/ Unionize and vote against fascism instead.

[-] glizzyguzzler 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

?? Unionize what ?? and this is actually a vote against fascism. Israel’s Zionist gov is very fascist and is committing active genocide against a people they view as 2nd class. This vote is getting the US government to use its outsized influence on Israel to end the Palestinian genocide.

The US primary election during an incumbent’s 2nd term reelection is the only place to safely vote like this on a national level in the US’s two party/first past the pole system. The incumbent is guaranteed to sweep, so people who care to enact a much needed end to genocide can vote to show their support for ending Palestinians being murdered.

(In the US, the term unionize is tied to worker groups acting as a collective bargaining unit and not tied to political movements)

[-] will_steal_your_username 4 points 10 months ago

I am very much pro palestine. I'm sorry I was not aware this was a primary, in that case voting against biden makes a lot more sense. I meant unionize in the normal way, as you defined it. Unions are an excellent place to also organize protests etc. Unions are absolutely tied to political movements. Here in norway they are/were associated with the workers party, a social democratic party, however they (the party) have been drifting farther and farther towards the center over the years.

I've seen people discus the election and no one brought up that it was a primary, so I foolishly assumed it wasn't.

[-] glizzyguzzler 3 points 10 months ago

Ah! Yes this protest vote is symbolic and people will not make the same for the general (real). I understand your and many others’ great worry over the protest vote. No one sane and rational would call for this protest vote for the general election when the alternate (as many others in other countries are well aware, as are we here) is the demise of the US.

Unions have not been a significant force in the US for decades. They’re at least on the up and up recently as the cost of living has skyrocketed. Glad they’re strong there :) hope they won’t drift too wrong

It is a grim time in the US, thanks for your interest in us! We must prevail over fascism, we will try, and hopefully we can end the genocide in Palestine while we’re at it. Some people feel it’s “too much”, but they’re being killed rapidly there, people needed to protest where they could.