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God is not all powerful if Satan can overcome him.
Satan cannot overcome Him. Satan's time is limited, in the end he will be defeated.
God was incapable of defeating him when a child was being raped and a perfect being is not capable of change.
The next child being raped will be watched by your God, too, as he will never be capable of defeating evil, as a perfect being will never change.
To change God would be to admit imperfection. Which is why I love the irony of the New Testament.
So if God is not capable of overcoming evil, and we know he is willing to watch innocent children be raped, why worship him?
All of these things are insignificant compared to Heaven. I think Job 38 illustrates God's perspective on this perfectly. This life is all we know right now.
Revelation shows God defeating Satan. It will happen. Satan's power is limited right now. Right now we have Jesus to save us in the meantime.
The disgusting selfish ego of the religious is the part I can never empathize with or sympathize with.
So, you admit God must change in the future to defeat Satan? You do not believe he is capable of defeating him as he is?
So God is neither all powerful nor perfect.
You do not worship the main texts of Christianity with those claims.
Notice how you don't actually want to discuss the topics or respond to the things I've said. You want to inject some fluffy talk to reinforce hiding your eyes from the discussion to pretend like you are participating.
If I worshipped something as a God, I would be devout enough to discuss it with a person instead of just talking over their statements about it.
Let's revisit where my previous comment started
You are happy to worship an imperfect powerless God who let's children be raped because a book written by child rapists said things might get better one day.
This guy believes in literal satan and jesus. Don't even try logic and reason, he is to far gone.
Yes... Because I'm Christian. It seems you feel that you are "too far gone" if you're Christian ๐
Satan actually isn't really a Christian concept.
Do you celebrate Christmas?
Of course I celebrate Christmas. Do you think I'm a Jehovah's Witness or something? ๐คฃ
Well, I don't think you are a practicing Christian lmao.
Are you a Jehovah's Witness?
You understand my position almost as well as you understand your own lmao
Nope, not every christian is a hardcore christian fundamentalist.
Believing in Jesus and Satan are the fundamentals of Christianity so... Yes?
I'm not arguing with you about logic, what would be the point? From my perspective it's like arguing with someone who thinks Lord of the Rings is based on real true story, which would be rather ridiculous endeavor.
How is that relevant?
From my perspective you are not different than your average schizophrenic, who has troubles to tell real and imaginary world apart. So as I would not argue with a schizophrenic (I would just enjoy the madness) - I see no point in arguing with you. You need some Dawkins kind of dude who is into this kind of kinky shit. I enjoy talking to people about their believes and spirituality, but I need to have at least some resemblance of agreement on nature of reality to argue with them.
Dawkins is basically, "Jesus didn't rise from the dead because people can't rise from the dead" circular reasoning
So, you two would be locked for ever in a beautiful but annoying dance.
Did you just edit my message? I never said that. I never said God needs to change, it's just something He will do as described in revelation. And what's this about the Bible being written by child rapists? It seems atheists cannot come to a consensus on who wrote it, but this is new. Then why doesn't it proscribe child rape and justify their actions, if it were?
You might not know your Bible as well as you think you do.
Okay? ๐
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