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I'm so sorry to hear that. Satan does infiltrate places where God is meant to be. What I am sharing is more than a religion. It's a relationship with and eternal security in Christ. I stress this enough, the things that happened to you when you were younger WERE NOT okay in any way, shape or form. Bad things happen in schools as well, and other places that are supposed to be a sanctuary. Please don't allow your bad experience to reflect poorly on Christ. I think it was Gandhi who said "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
God is not all powerful if Satan can overcome him.
Satan cannot overcome Him. Satan's time is limited, in the end he will be defeated.
God was incapable of defeating him when a child was being raped and a perfect being is not capable of change.
The next child being raped will be watched by your God, too, as he will never be capable of defeating evil, as a perfect being will never change.
To change God would be to admit imperfection. Which is why I love the irony of the New Testament.
So if God is not capable of overcoming evil, and we know he is willing to watch innocent children be raped, why worship him?
All of these things are insignificant compared to Heaven. I think Job 38 illustrates God's perspective on this perfectly. This life is all we know right now.
Revelation shows God defeating Satan. It will happen. Satan's power is limited right now. Right now we have Jesus to save us in the meantime.
The disgusting selfish ego of the religious is the part I can never empathize with or sympathize with.
So, you admit God must change in the future to defeat Satan? You do not believe he is capable of defeating him as he is?
So God is neither all powerful nor perfect.
You do not worship the main texts of Christianity with those claims.
Notice how you don't actually want to discuss the topics or respond to the things I've said. You want to inject some fluffy talk to reinforce hiding your eyes from the discussion to pretend like you are participating.
If I worshipped something as a God, I would be devout enough to discuss it with a person instead of just talking over their statements about it.
Let's revisit where my previous comment started
You are happy to worship an imperfect powerless God who let's children be raped because a book written by child rapists said things might get better one day.
This guy believes in literal satan and jesus. Don't even try logic and reason, he is to far gone.
Yes... Because I'm Christian. It seems you feel that you are "too far gone" if you're Christian 😂
Satan actually isn't really a Christian concept.
Do you celebrate Christmas?
Of course I celebrate Christmas. Do you think I'm a Jehovah's Witness or something? 🤣
Well, I don't think you are a practicing Christian lmao.
Nope, not every christian is a hardcore christian fundamentalist.
Believing in Jesus and Satan are the fundamentals of Christianity so... Yes?
I'm not arguing with you about logic, what would be the point? From my perspective it's like arguing with someone who thinks Lord of the Rings is based on real true story, which would be rather ridiculous endeavor.
How is that relevant?
From my perspective you are not different than your average schizophrenic, who has troubles to tell real and imaginary world apart. So as I would not argue with a schizophrenic (I would just enjoy the madness) - I see no point in arguing with you. You need some Dawkins kind of dude who is into this kind of kinky shit. I enjoy talking to people about their believes and spirituality, but I need to have at least some resemblance of agreement on nature of reality to argue with them.
Dawkins is basically, "Jesus didn't rise from the dead because people can't rise from the dead" circular reasoning
So, you two would be locked for ever in a beautiful but annoying dance.
Did you just edit my message? I never said that. I never said God needs to change, it's just something He will do as described in revelation. And what's this about the Bible being written by child rapists? It seems atheists cannot come to a consensus on who wrote it, but this is new. Then why doesn't it proscribe child rape and justify their actions, if it were?
You might not know your Bible as well as you think you do.
I'll pass.
Romans 3:10-12 ESV [10] as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one; [11] no one understands; no one seeks for God. [12] All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one.” [23] for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
John 3:16 ESV [16] “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
1 Timothy 1:15 ESV [15] The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost.
Acts 16:31 ESV [31] And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
Romans 8:1-2 ESV [1] There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. [2] For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
On relationship:
Matthew 18:19-20 ESV [19] Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. [20] For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”
Romans 8:26-27 ESV [26] Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. [27] And he who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
Romans 8:34-35 ESV [34] Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died—more than that, who was raised—who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us. [35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?
You asked for Christian doctrine... What else did you want me to use? You said "pinpoint where in Christianity".
Is it possible for you to explain without referencing the Bible?
Nope
My favourite thing about that video is that it uses deception and misrepresentation and lies (Come on, it even refers to Bart Ehrman as a "pious protestant"), exact tools satan would use 😂. It does capture satan's personality perfectly though, pretending to be the good guy.
Wait dude, I just realized - do you also believe in the literal Satan?
I'm a Christian.... So yes....
Woa, never met anyone who actually took Christianity that literal. That must be a wild experience to believe in literal devil and god, sin and all that stuff - that's a trip and a half. Kind of speechless - that's just wild.
Do suppose the only "Christian" you know is Schrödinger's Catholic 😂 You mustn't get out much
I don't think that was a very charitable comment. I haven't anyone that believes in the Bible in a literal way either. I've heard people say the stories are mostly allegory and to practice the message of the Bible and the like.
That's insane. It's a shame how far we've fallen.
Maybe take it down a notch when it comes to calling people insane because your lack of self awareness is kind of embarrassing. We aren't the ones going off about an ancient book of supernatural morality tales. Tales that you haven't learned to practice what they're preaching apparently.
You know, when you start to think that everyone else around you is insane - maybe it's a good moment to stop for a moment and reflect.
Sure, what ever helps you sleep at night my crazy friend.
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Did you even read the original comment?
What else could I use?
I don't know, I guess I was curious because this seems so important to you and I wasn't expecting you to hinge your whole belief system on one ancient book.
I wasn't raised around religion nor have I ever really been around it, so I find it fascinating. My, bad, I guess it was a big ask.
Yes? Because they are attestations of a guy who literally rose from the dead and fulfilled many verifiably older prophecies. We literally have surviving copies of prophecies about Jesus that were made before He was born. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as irate. Literally had someone tell me that it would be better if I and basically everyone I hold dear to me was dead. Along with 4 billion other people.