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u mad, state? (lemmy.world)
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[-] Sims@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 years ago

A 'State' is not inherently bad. That's just libertarian propaganda/dogma. Self-interested psychopaths in charge of a state is bad..

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

Funny thing about ancap libertarianism is that they've correctly identified that power can lead to tyranny, but they're completely oblivious to the power that corporatism (the conclusion of lassez-faire capitalism) results in.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

They often are Christians, so they apply fundamentalist style thinking and cannot challenge the assumptions they made.

[-] TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

tHe mArKeT wIlL rEgUlAtE tHeM

[-] djehuti@programming.dev 28 points 2 years ago

States always wind up being run by self-interested psychopaths.

That's not a "flaw;" it's the fundamental nature of the concept.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

We need a strong authoritarian leader and a massive police force to keep the people in line.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

What makes you think I'm joking?

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I assumed you were well intentioned and not trolling

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] delirious_owl@discuss.online 15 points 2 years ago

Lol lots of people think that no entity has the right to monopolize violence against a population.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately it's usually self-interested psychopaths who seek out and obtain those positions, especially since you need to be a bit psychotic to do what's required to get there.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 years ago

The state is kinda bad and it's not only Right-Libertarians who say that. Even so, leaking documents is not always bad. Like, the Abu Ghraib leak was objectively good.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Abu Graib wasn't leaked. Amnesty International talked to prisoners that were released. Then the Red Cross used their oversight powers to get in and make an official report. Then a soldier reported the crimes to the Army's version of the FBI, (CID). The Army then did an investigation and started arresting people.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Joe Darby came forward with the photographs, effectively leaking them. Rumsfeld later leaked Joe Darby's name and identity, leading to him receiving death threats.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

He "leaked" them to CID.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

Oh boy, here comes the political drama. Can we not do this?

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