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[-] ReCursing@kbin.social 68 points 9 months ago

Nickelback. I mean they're not good but they're not really bad either, just a complete nonevent. They don't deserve the hate they get, they don't really deserve anything

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, most of the hate is because they were super overplayed for a solid decade. For years the popular radio stations in my area didn't seem to play anything but Nickelback, green day, Lady Gaga, and pink. In a vacuum, they're fine. "How you remind me" is pretty good imo. I don't care for anything else from them. I've heard that their guitar player is actually really talented, but I haven't listened to them enough to know myself

[-] Susaga@ttrpg.network 11 points 9 months ago

Ah, the common paradox. Nobody wants to listen to Nickelback because it's overplayed, and nobody drives in New York because of all the traffic.

[-] TruthAintEasy@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

I dont want to listen to them because there is nearly infinite better music than the overproduced boring stuff. Some tunes are catchy, even seen them live once because my mom wanted company, but they are mid at best imo

[-] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I second this. I love Nickelback. They are unique in their own way .

[-] ReCursing@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

No, they're not. That was kind of my point

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

"All the right reasons" is a solid album by them. Nothing groundbreaking or unique in terms of sound but it's an enjoyable listen.

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Also a phrase that sums up their entire career. And that's fine. They're like the musical equivalent of comfort food.

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oh, boy, they most certainly deserve the hate. This article sums it up pretty well: https://www.grunge.com/51980/nickelback-became-hated-band-music-industry/

[-] Susaga@ttrpg.network 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Holy fuck, that article is elitist. Half of the sections seem pointlessly mean, like they're trying to dunk on them to win popularity points. One of them is just insulting Chad Kroeger for marrying Avril Lavigne, as if a 10+ year marriage is a bad thing. Some valid points buried in there, but the credibility is lost.

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Some valid points? Some? Well, yeah, there are some that probably could be omitted, but most stands strong.

Maybe I'm biased as I listen to more or less different genres, but there's nothing wrong on hating on Nickelback.

[-] Susaga@ttrpg.network 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Why would you hate someone for making music you don't enjoy? Why hate someone for making money with a successful product? Why not just... Ignore them? You are under no obligation to like them, but there's only around three arguments in there to actually hate them. There are more arguments in that article that boil down to "it's successful, so it sucks" than valid criticism.

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago
[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 9 months ago

Liking something is just a waste of time.

[-] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks I'm glad someone got it

[-] lazylion_ca@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Being cool is so lame.

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy rock music (among others), but assholes like Nickelback are making terrible example of it. When someone asks me what I listen to and I reply "rock music" the person often reply along the lines of "ah, ok, like Nickelback?" And that's just disgusting.

I don't actively hate on them posting shit on the internet on my own or marching with antiNickelback sign in RL, but when someone asks or when discussion revolves around, I tell him I hate the band.

Being successful musician has nothing to do with it. People like Kanye or Taylor Swift made way more money with their (IMO shitty) music, but I don't hate them as Nickelback. Because they (probably, or at least not that obviously) don't ruin the genre they perform in.

Edit: Half of what I want to say is probably lost in translation as English is not my native language, so I can't make all the nuances I would do in my language.

[-] Susaga@ttrpg.network 5 points 9 months ago

First, this was never about your opinion. It was about an article that complained about music being used in advertising, songs being popular, and people being inspired by a band. That was the opinion you cited as a good reason to hate them.

Second, how often does that actually happen? Considering it's an internet meme to shit on them, how often do people cite Nickelback as their main example of rock ahead of, say, Nirvana?

Third, why is it disgusting that people mention a band you dislike? Can you not simply correct them and suggest the bands you ACTUALLY like? Does it have to be "hate" rather than "I'm not a fan"?

Fourth, how the hell did Nickelback ruin rock? Is rock so fragile that the Eagles can't be enjoyed because of "How you remind me" existing? There are bands far worse than Nickelback, but they aren't successful so you don't care. If Nickelback weren't as successful, you wouldn't care about them either.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 months ago

No, makes sense to me.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 9 months ago

It is less "it's successful, so it sucks" and more "I keep having to listen to something I don't like, so now I hate it".

[-] Susaga@ttrpg.network 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

...But you don't have to listen to it. If it's on the radio, change the station. The complaints in the article were WAY too in depth for a casual listener to make.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 months ago

That assumes you have control of the radio station or whatever songs are being played. It isn't like that for a lot of people.

[-] Susaga@ttrpg.network 4 points 9 months ago

Scenario 1: It's your radio. Turn to a different station.
Scenario 2: It's a friend's radio. Ask them to turn to a different station.
Scenario 3: It's a public radio. Just zone out for three minutes.

And on the subject of not getting to choose the songs, what station is choosing to play 20 year old songs by a band it's a meme to hate?

[-] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago

Another thing that is hated for no reason. Age-gap relationships.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The thing is, Nickelback didn't invent post-grunge or radio grunge, but they were definitely face of it. That era saw a nearly endless stream of cookie cutter Pearl Jam wannabes pop up, and at the same time the entire independent radio industry, which had played a big role in birthing so many counterculture movements, was under threat of corporate consolidation when they were getting popular in the late 90s.

To many millennials, nothing else embodied this dark era for rock music like Nickelback. It was "we have Eddie Vedder at home" meme - shoved down our throats, carbon copied every few months, constantly reminding us that the alternative rock station we grew up with was purchased by Clearchannel and would be transitioned to Latin Beats by the end of the year.

So in that sense, Nickelback may not have killed grunge, but it happily set up shop on its grave, to forever pantomime and disrespect the alternative rock giants laying below. And for a lot of people, that was just too painful.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

I think they're a relic from a time when it was ok/cool to hate on a band or artist for no reason, publicly, without everyone judging you for being a prick.

My theory is that they're one of, if not the, last bands to fall into the above category, so everyone just uses them as their go-to.

Younger people (in this case meaning people under 35 lol) are just so much more accepting and less judgemental than previous generations. And you love to see it.

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