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Nikki Haley: America Is Committing “Suicide” by Voting for Trump
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So you and people like you turned 1 of our 2 political parties into a giant dumpster fire that threatens world wide stability...
And now you want to lecture Dems on what kind of candidates we should be happy with?
Why would anyone care what your opinion is on political candidates?
Go fix your own house first instead of burning down half of the only remaining house.
Thanks for displaying what it looks like when one is siloed-off and can no longer muster the good faith required for a simple conversation across ideological lines.
Ironic.
good faith? HAhahahahahaha Man, the early 90's called, laughed and hung up. Newt Gingrich much?
Yes, good faith.
You know, the thing you lack when skipping over the substance of a person's argument, even while rushing to equate them with Newt Gingrich.
That's some fine petard hoisting.
American conservatives haven't done or said a single thing in good faith in the last half a century. You don't get to ask others to do what you're unwilling to do.
Such a sweeping statement is useless on its face. An educated look at an exit pool from within the last week leaves this analysis in tatters.
I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. I just firmly believe in government working for the people. I don’t play party politics.
You have to realize that at the end of the day, we’re all people and that treating people like individuals is better than treating government like a competitive sport.
The "big tent" is just an excuse to move the democratic party right so no matter who wins the billionaires never lose...
That's why the party fights any movement to the left, and takes every opportunity to move right.
I'm sorry you can't understand that, but as a "conservative moderate" I'm sure this isn't a new experience.
Have a nice life
I’m not trying to be a Democrat. And I also don’t believe democrats should move right. That’s something Obama did wrong.
If the middle is 0, one side should be -5 and the other side should be +5. Obama had too much faith in republicans, offering 0 right off the bat, allowing republicans to go to +10.
What should really happen is that the Republican Party should be split into far right crazies and center right, and the Democratic Party should be split into center left and far left.
It is absolutely ridiculous for the Republican Party to characterize the Democrats as “the far left” and throw terms like “communist” and “socialist”. The US NEEDS a socialist and communist party such that the Republican Party can stop mis-using these terms and come back to reality.
I’m sorry if you think I misunderstood, and I welcome any corrections
TL;DR: you're a reasonable person, but one who has no understanding of the game theory of how our political system works.
Here's the thing: you can't just want the Overton window to not be skewed and for all ideologies to be represented by political parties; you have to understand the current fucked-up framework we have that structurally suppresses all but the two most popular parties in order to figure out how to change it to be fairer.
The only alternatives to developing that understanding and strategy -- sitting around whining about it, or trying to burn it down and start over -- range from ineffective to foolhardy.
TIL that there’s a term for the concept I’ve been trying to explain what’s wrong with American politics.
By framework, do you mean FPTP naturally becomes a two party system? Because honestly, we need RCV. And it might be prudent to go back to the system at founding:
Most votes is President, second most is vice.
To be honest, I’m not sure why we have to vote for a ticket.