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[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Supporting “peaceful protestors” wearing anti-facist gear and smash/loot small businesses feels morally compromising.

Are you equivocating this with a vote for Bernie or Warren in the primaries?

Furthermore, moderates like you got the candidate you wanted in the primaries and lots of progressives and leftists begrudgingly showed up to vote for him in the 2020 general. Biden hasn't compromised with them at all. If you want him to win the next election you'll need our help again. We've provided some ideas like "stop sending weapons to Israel" and "don't block strikes". Are you trying to tell me supporting either of those ideas feels morally compromising to you? And if not have you done anything to try to tell Biden to wake the fuck up unless he wants to lose to the far right?

You're acting like there's only two extreme choices when that doesn't reflect reality. Biden won the primaries. You got your centerist president. Now help us nudge him left and we'll help make sure he gets elected again.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Sir I wanted Bernie, never Biden. I want someone strong left leaning, even as a centrist, because the right is fucked beyond repair. Biden is too far right.

It might sound like mixed messaging but I like Healthcare for all, universal basic income, cheap medicine, free college, all those radical ideas. Just hate the "burn the city for racial awareness" bullshit.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

It might sound like mixed messaging but I like Healthcare for all, universal basic income, cheap medicine, free college, all those radical ideas.

And you support that by arguing with leftists and progressives? When was the last time you lectured a moderate? Have you ever told someone who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries that was a selfish thing to do? Or do you only spend your time lecturing leftists and progressives?

Whatever your beliefs are your actions do not differentiate you from a moderate in any meaningful way.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lol you seem so unused to the idea of being lectured by someone who shares most of your principles your only response is "why not other people?"

I argue with everyone who hold shitty beliefs and that doesn't exclude you even if you're mostly on my side. The tests I've taken call me a left leaning centrist so I guess that's what I am.

Feel free to check my comment history, the left and the right both take shots. Even centers for fence riding. You don't get a free pass for what you're called. Shit beliefs are shit beliefs and your world views define you.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lol you seem so unused to the idea of being lectured by someone who shares most of your principles your only response is “why not other people?”

I'm not unused to it at all. There's plenty of people around here larping as progressive and leftists while doing nothing but undermining those efforts. If you actually want to help then start telling moderates they can either compromise with progressives and leftists or lose to fascists. Lecturing me and trying to tell me I should vote for Biden despite his actions will get you nowhere. I'm voting 3rd party or write in.

I argue with everyone who hold shitty beliefs and that doesn’t exclude you even if you’re mostly on my side. The tests I’ve taken call me a left leaning centrist so I guess that’s what I am.

Ok. Was it a shitty belief for moderates to think Biden was the best choice to make in the 2020 primaries?

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