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submitted 8 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Alabama Chief Justice Tom Parker indicated on the show he was a proponent of the “Seven Mountains Mandate,” an explicitly theocratic doctrine at the heart of Christian nationalism.

Alabama Chief Justice Tom Parker, who wrote the concurring opinion in last week’s explosive Alabama Supreme Court ruling that frozen embryos have the same rights as living children, recently appeared on a show hosted by self-anointed “prophet” and QAnon conspiracy theorist.

Parker was the featured guest on “Someone You Should Know,” hosted by Johnny Enlow, a Christian nationalist influencer and devoted supporter of former President Donald Trump. Over the course of an 11-minute interview, Parker articulated a theocratic worldview at odds with a functioning, pluralistic society.

“God created government,” he told Enlow, adding that it’s “heartbreaking” that “we have let it go into the possession of others.”

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[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago

To me, the things you mentioned lean more towards basic human rights. I don’t think it would be fair to call a judge partisan if he or she rules to preserve those. But I’m just a dude on the internet. Happy Friday friend!

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 29 points 8 months ago

You aren't wrong, and and yet all those things I mentioned fall on partisan lines anyway. The problem isn't partisanship, it's right-wingers. If we got rid of those judges and replaced them with leftist partisans instead we could actually start fixing things. Justice is political, you can't escape that!

But I'm just a girl with a dream. 😏

[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I don’t think you are wrong either. I just think that the word partisan might be too strong? Ideally, I’d like my judges neutral, but where do you find those nowadays right?

Stay safe sis.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago

I think that's a trick the right played on us, to convince us that we should be apolitical and stop us from getting politically organized. Meanwhile, they're explicitly partisan and that's why they keep winning. Basic human rights aren't neutral and we shouldn't be either.

Reject idealism. Embrace politics. Solidarity forever. ✊

[-] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I don’t think you are wrong either. I just think that the word partisan might be too strong? Ideally, I’d like my judges neutral, but where do you find those nowadays right?

I think that’s a trick the right played on us, to convince us that we should be apolitical and stop us from getting politically organized.

The core belief system of the United States of America has always been to have fair and impartial judges. It's not a conspiracy theory from either side.

Having said that, either side would love to stack the court system in their favor, and the conservatives especially have been actively working on that for quite a while now.

As Americans, we shouldn't allow that to happen (FFS vote smart on judges!), either way. There's a reason why Justice is always shown with a scale.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

The core belief system of the United States of America has always been to have fair and impartial judges. It’s not a conspiracy theory from either side.

The bipartisan consensus is right-wing because America is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.

[-] dezmd@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Everything is about perspectives and everything has nuance that must be taken into account. Yes, that can be really fucking annoying and sometimes works against our hopeful outcomes and does cause our good soundbite moments to be tarnished. There is not a singular universal argument in favor or against every single possible concept we create as a thinking society. To some extent, everything as we conceptualize it is malleable.

Your whole argument looks wholesale more about rejecting politics to embrace idealism. Which is a good thing in my estimation, and seems better situated to have outcomes more inline with what you, and we all, may be looking for out of life in general. Basic human rights aren't political, they're an ideal that goes beyond the limitations of politics.

So in that way, the following works exactly the same towards your preferential outcomes:

Reject politics. Embrace Idealism. Solidarity forever.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

Okay so if you reject politics you literally can't get judges appointed. 👀

With that out of the way-

"Rights", as a concept, are inherently political. A right is literally a political carve-out that enshrines a mandate and creates a political obligation to uphold it. Idealism can be employed to support certain rights, but rights themselves can only exist through politics.

[-] dezmd@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I can appreciate the logic and the fervor behind your positions.

I will argue a step further zooming out that Basic Human Rights are inherent without politics at all. Knowledge comes before politics.

If anything, politics demotes rights from inherent to defined and limited. Which, simply put, sucks.

Politics is a game, don't ever forget that. We are all in the game and have to keep playing as long as everyone else keeps playing. It's all bullshit layered on top of bullshit, rules laid out by someone that came before with rules added by someone after that, and later again someone else to make up more rules.

Some of the bullshit works great and helps overcome life's struggles and adversities. Some bullshit brings us all down together and is ruinous to us as a species. Some bullshit even tends to be ruinous to the entire ecology of life on our tiny blue dot in the universe.

Just be careful to not get too caught up in the bullshit.

Don't get me wrong, I've voted in every election since I was old enough to vote and I do have a certain feeling of responsibility towards civic duty for the sake of a civilized society (and more-so now, for my children, which does help reinforce that ideal). I also try to engage with the news of world and am generally self aware enough to be thoughtful, rational, and capable of compromise.

I don't vote for politics, I vote for ideals.

Cheers.

[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I am thoroughly enjoying this conversation and topic, both of you. Thank you.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 8 months ago

The issue is those on the right believe that's what makes judges partisan.

[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Ah, that’s a perspective I was not seeing. Thank you!

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