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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 9 points 7 months ago

if you dont hold your nose and vote non-trump, those 3rd parties will never get a chance again. at the very least the DNC do pretend democracy. trump isnt even pretending democracy anymore.

so yeah, vote those 3rd parties one last time.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 9 points 7 months ago

those so-called third parties are non-trump

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 7 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

This is one of the people who has been trying to convince me that Cornel West has a decent chance of being president. Take from that what you will.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 8 points 7 months ago

And this person talks about the upballot when the subject matter was downballot. He wasn't able to answer how is Cornell West or Jill Stein relevant when it comes to downballot choices of people who refuses to vote for Biden.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

yet more poisoning of the well, a form of ad hominem.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago

You're going to need to explain that.

I offered an alternative to voting against Democrats, and that is the primary, and that means picking the downballot that has the most chances along with ones that aligns with ones' view the best. You weren't the person I responded to. And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead. And the subject matter of the alternative wasn't really anything to do with the upballot, and you're not able to give a sastisfactory answer as to how they're relevant to this proposal.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

>I offered an alternative to voting against Democrats, and that is the primary,

and i said "no".

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem where you say (or imply) that someone's arguments are unsound because of something else they have said or done. it's prima facie ad hominem because you are attacking the person, not the argument.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

The argument you provided weren't arguments because they didn't align with the subject proposal at hand which is downballot choices. You came with the upballot. That's not an argument to begin with. And I was making a observation of your responses.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

anyone can see exactly what happened and that you are just trying to imply that i was involved in some conversation that i never was.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

>And then, you decided to talk about the upballot instead.

i never talked about the downballot at all. anyone can see exactly what i quoted, and what i said, and that i'm not getting dragged along into voting for even more democrats.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

Of course you didn't. But you responded with upballot instead when the subject matter of the proposal of alternative was to look for downballot. Do I have to repeat that until you get it?

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

repeat it all you want. anyone can see what happened.

[-] Reptorian@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

And you're getting downvoted. That tells me maybe, maybe you're on the wrong here?

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

aha..appeal to popularity

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

people just don't like to hear the truth when it contradicts the lies they've chosen to believe

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 7 months ago

prolly just ignoring the irrelevancy of the downballot in the face of losing democracy altogether.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

this is classic poisoning the well, a form of ad hominem.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

You to me one half hour ago:

https://lemmy.world/comment/7788120

This is not the way to get me to do that.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

do you need help finding the block button?

https://lemmy.world/u/bigmouthcommie@kolektiva.social

it's in the upper right

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Let me get this straight, you want me to ignore you, so you expect me to block you?

I think you're going to be very disappointed if that's what you expect.

If you want me to ignore you, I will only be forced to if you block me.

Of course, I sincerely doubt you'll block me because then you won't be able to do things like tell me how I support genocide.

But go for it: Prove me wrong.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

>Let me get this straight, you want me to ignore you, so you expect me to block you?

oh, that would be lovely. i can't click the button for you though.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

>If you want me to ignore you, I will only be forced to if you block me.

thats not how blocking works on lemmy

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago
[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago

i don't need to prove to you how blocking works. you can try it yourself.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Oh well, guess I won't be ignoring you then.

Not my problem.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Another option would be to just never reply to me. In fact, that would be the easiest way for me to leave you alone since you claim you want me to leave you alone.

I bet you can't do it. Anyone else bet they can't do it?

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

that's not really an option: you inserted yourself into this conversation just to adhom me.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago
[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

blocking you wouldn't stop you from following me around and adhomming me: it would jsut stop me from seeing it and defending myself.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I bet you can't even stop yourself from responding to me in this thread again.

Prove me wrong.

[-] bigMouthCommie@kolektiva.social 2 points 7 months ago

poisoning the well is a form of ad hominem where you say (or imply) that someone's arguments are unsound because of something else they have said or done. it's prima facie ad hominem because you are attacking the person, not the argument.

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