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[-] memfree@lemmy.ml 193 points 2 years ago

It should be illegal for Utilities to become for-profit. They should either be government run or non-profit, but only in the business to provide a needed service and NOT to make money.

For clarity: By 'Utilities', I mean items for which local residents have little or no choice in the provider (power/electric lines, water/sewer lines, hospitals) AND which either are or are nearly essential for modern living (it'd be hard to get a job without it, OR social services might take your kids if you don't provide the item).

[-] Da_Boom@iusearchlinux.fyi 110 points 2 years ago

In this day and age, the ISP should also be on the list of things classified as "utilities" - it's getting harder and harder to do anything useful without the internet. It's become an essential service.

[-] Deello@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago

The governments treatment of ISPs has made other industries reconsider how they do business. Utilities as we know them will be going away soon. How long before USPS is sold?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm shocked DeJoy hasn't managed to already.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

It's because he'd have to face the Letter Carriers union, in an organized labor market that has gotten extremely militant with strike culture

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

How long before USPS is sold?

Or just scrapped so that Amazon can consume the balance of the market share.

[-] memfree@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago
[-] Raxiel@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Last mile at least, with equal access rules in the exchange

[-] SGG@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I think a better way to go about it is what Australia used to do. There was a government run service for most things, phones: Telstra, banking: Commonwealth bank, etc. Unfortunately they get sold off for peanuts/privatised, and what do you know, service suffered, but profits for the board and investors jumped.

This leaves the ability for private companies to operate in the space if they can compete on price or on service/features.

Private companies hate that though, it means they can't boil the frog/capture the industry as easily.

[-] herrcaptain@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

I fully agree with you, but the problem is that inevitably conservative governments will find a way to privatize these sorts of state-owned corporations. Our provincial governments here in Canada have been doing this for decades now - always resulting in worse outcomes for consumers

I'm starting to think the best model going forward would be collectively-owned non-profits (roughly like credit unions) but I'm not optimistic that most people would buy into this idea - certainly not enough to enable it's use for services that constitute utilities. I know in the US a lot of attempts at municipal broadband have been curtailed by the big corps and their owned politicians, and those attempts had a local government behind them. The uphill battle that concerned citizens would face seems almost insurmountable if this were attempted in any way that would challenge a big corp's profits.

Basically, everything is garbage and the world is getting objectively worse.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Mate, that’s literally what they’re saying. Make it government run as a public utility.

Privatisation is a neolib cancer on the world.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

How is that better?

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 2 years ago

Yes. These things should not be run for profit.

I think that we should set up some sort of honey pot trap, here. Anyone who seriously proposes privatizing one of the utilities is permanently barred from working in the industry ever again.

Wildly impractical, I know. I just want the people who are always making the world shittier so they can have a little more profit to suffer.

[-] uriel238 6 points 2 years ago

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『is carried off by well dressed industrialist goons』

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