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[-] MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com 71 points 2 years ago

I like that McFarlane just said “fuck that” in The Orville. He kept the gist — leave developing civilizations alone — but doesn’t even consider allowing them to go extinct for stupid reasons.

[-] yukichigai@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Really early on, too. It was one of the things that made me go "oh wait this isn't just fart jokes in space".

Though to be fair, the reality is that no matter how advanced we get there's still gonna be fart jokes in space. That scene in the cafeteria where everyone's getting Bortus to eat random things seems like a far more realistic vision of a space-faring post-scarcity future.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

The Orville is Star Trek if the federation actually had to recruit real people.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

Though to be fair, the reality is that no matter how advanced we get there's still gonna be fart jokes in space. That scene in the cafeteria where everyone's getting Bortus to eat random things seems like a far more realistic vision of a space-faring post-scarcity future.

This is exactly why I love lower decks, it's so much closer to how we would probably act in the 24th century vs the heroized live action stuff lmao

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Lower decks is painful to watch

[-] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 years ago

Really? I'm curious, you don't like the humor or what is it?

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah 'if the stars should appear' was the point all of us sat up and went "HELLO"

[-] hglman@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

They save them in tos as well.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Only because Kirk hadn't banged them yet.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

(yes I'm adding to my joke hours later. do something about it. bitch.)

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

In TOS Kirk really leans into not interfering with the “healthy” development of a civilization. If it isn’t healthy in his judgement, he interferes. So, essentially when it comes to Kirk if it offends his sensibilities he assumes free reign change it while paying lip service to the idea of non-intervention.

[-] zaphod@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Colonialism at its finest! The Apple is the absolute perfect example. "But Spock, these people don't even f*ck! We gotta destroy that lizard cave!"

[-] zaphod@feddit.de 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, but in TOS we also see what happens if you forget a book about the chicago mob of the 1920s on a developing planet.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

And they even had an episode that explained why the Union had a "Prime Directive" and what happened when they tried to introduce new technology to a planet that wasn't ready for it.

[-] hansl@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Isn’t that also part of the ST lore? Or did I mix up The Orville and Star Trek canon… :/

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I liked We Are Legion where Bob is like "Fuck this! I'm making sure this species thrives, even if I have to kill half the planet to do it.". Also regarding genocide, the Bobs were like "file as 'think about this later' on our TODO list".

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Lol Bob went a level above genocide in the end there. Artificial stellar nova is a bad day for every species in a solar system...

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That was one of the coolest scenes I've read before. The sheer magnitude of their destruction was unbelievable.

[-] NotAtWork@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago

Bob decided to delete the great filter.

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

For real. Every now and again I go back JUST for that passage. So so good.

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