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TIFU by accidentally choosing a nazi username
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this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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I literally gave you context but good for you that you don't need to think about these things. Not everyone can feel so safe and comfortable when extremist symbols start to pop up. It is "just a number" and "just a symbol" and "just a joke" until you are surrounded by extremists calling for the heads of those who they hate.
Like they say, is it paranoia if they are really going after you? We aren't at a point this is speculative anymore. I have seen people parading in nazi paraphernalia. Just this week in my country a teacher got assaulted and threatened at gunpoint by a cop for reprimanding his son for doing a nazi salute.
I'm a bisexual man. I see how hate movements have successfully codified their persecution of trans people into law in many places around the world, and how they are already moving to attack gay people, women and people of color.
There's no escaping the stress if this sort of stuff ends up affecting me and the people I care about. The stress might be the least of the problems.
Frankly I don't know how you can exist on the internet and remain entirely oblivious to how hate movements have gained momentum lately. It's not a question of whether it's going to happen, just seems like you are lucky not to get affected by it.
The tool posts to a community called "conservative", and makes vaguely dogwhistle posts. Odds are they've never had a thought they weren't told to think in their life
Yeah, I see now how they are posting about DeSantis and defending the loss of rights of LGBTQ+ parents in Italy.
I was trying to discuss in good faith but here we have an example of how even this supposedly unconcerned neutral sort of talk is used with partisan intent. So what can one expect from outright nazi symbols?
Yeah, fascists never debate in good faith, because they don't actually have a single valid point to defend
You are showing your whole ass here. just spewing blatantly false and off-topic conservative fearmongering right after lying about how you don't worry about hate movements. Now it's clear why, you are part of one.
But just not to leave your bulshit unanswered
This whole argument of yours also reeks of "gay men have the same rights to marry a woman". Different people in different situations have different needs. Cisgender kids also get treatment for precocious and anomalous puberties, and nobody complains about that.
And it's interesting the similarities between the current fearmongering against LGBT people with the nazi's own use of that, with the talk of "seduction of the youth". It's worth remembering that the nazi infamous book burns started with an institute that researched sexuality, including topics about gay and trans people. Like they say, history doesn't repeat but it often rhymes.
Politics and laws are already being actively affected by online extremism. It would be at best complete obliviousness pretending nothing being said matters, but at this point it's clear you are actively trying to deceive and gaslight, because you spelled out that you are for the persecution, and that's why you were soooo unconcerned by it.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/
This is referring to hormone replacement therapy, not puberty blockers. Something that is only prescribed at 16, when they old enough to drive or join the military.
And as much as the long term psychological effects of hormone blockers are unknown, what is know is the psychological effects of forcing transgender kids to undergo biological puberty: Severe gender dysphoria that leads many to commit suicide.
But I guess the distress of trans kids does not matter to you. You just want to pretend that they don't exist, and mandate it so that they don't exist.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075
Same here.
Do you get it though? The irreversible changes in question include what transgender people go through when they don't have access to puberty blockers.
But if you were so above political extremism, you shouldn't be getting on the case of trans people. Which you insist on just as you say there's no need to worry about hate movements.
So you are just burying your head in the sand and pulling conclusion out of your ass since you don't care how many trans kids die so that the extremely minute number of regretful kids won't have to deal with treatable temporary side effects?
Very revealing how selective this care for children is.
What number is zero?
Zero of what is what? You are not even saying the number of what you are referring to. Probably because you don't have anything to back it with beyond misguided outrage and bravado.
@Blamemeta @TwilightVulpine when the nazis roll into your town on your newly constructred roads you'll wish you worried
@Blamemeta It's pretty privileged to NOT worry about Nazis. In your understanding, what do you think a Nazi is?
@Blamemeta You avoided the second question: what do you think a Nazi is?
@Blamemeta If a man stands in the public square and yells "Gas the Jews!" and "Heil Hitler!" and does the Nazi salute and has swastika tattoos all over, is it fair to call him a Nazi, even though he is not on the party list of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei?
@Blamemeta Seems like a useless way to talk about the world. Maybe we should count him as a Nazi since the only way in which he's not a Nazi is that he's not enrolled in the NSDAP party membership?
@Blamemeta Maybe having membership of the NSDAP should not be seen as the proper criterion for being a Nazi. Maybe we should instead say that people with the ideology of the NSDAP are Nazis, no matter whether they're officially registered or not.
@Blamemeta and I am using a Twitter-style server, which links you when replying. I am not sure if the link is required, but Twitter wouldn't show you the reply if it wasn't linked.
@Blamemeta I am talking to you from a Twitter interface called Pleroma. I can see your replies to me because Lemmy will send them to me simply because they are replies. I am not sure if Pleroma wil send replies back to Lemmy if they don't link.
@Blamemeta Would you say the same to people in 1932, before Hitler was elected?
He definitely would. Dude is so sheltered or allowed to be so wilfully blind that he doesn't even know that neo-nazis exist and are a significant problem and he's calling OTHER people privileged 🤦🤯
Edit: I read on and found out that he was just a fascist pretending that he and his buddies are just misunderstood normal conservatives 🤦
@Viking_Hippie 99% of the time when people try to nitpick the definition of Nazis like this, they're Nazis.
That's very true and I am intellectually aware, but I have an annoying habit of sometimes being overly optimistic when it comes to assuming good faith so that I miss some that should be obvious lol.
Then again, it's usually the me calling them an idiot rather than a liar, so they don't get a pass either way 😁
@Blamemeta You mean like the Republican party is doing about transgender people right now?
@Blamemeta your completely off-topic incoherent reply means nothing but it does tell me you're a nazi since it's a nazi talking point at the moment. Toodle-oo!
Dude they have literally been distributing Nazi fliers in the cities near me trying to recruit new members.
Wake the fuck up, or they’ll gather until they are something you wish you’d noticed way earlier.
My grandfather got a Purple Heart in WWII and I’ll be god damned if my daughter is gonna do the same. Fuck Nazi scum.
This comes across as privileged, not insightful
Confirmed: the Netherlands Navy was nazi centuries before nazism.