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[-] Drusas@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago

Considering how so many motorcyclists drive, and the fact that the parents forgave the student, I'm going to guess that what really happened is that the motorcyclist killed himself by driving recklessly.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago

I mean, consider the counter shit take: That motorcyclist could be driving much more recklessly without being in so much danger, if other people didn't drive around with mobile walls at 100 km/h...

You're arbitrarily assuming it to be a given, that dangerous cars are on the street, and shifting the blame to the person who is, quite by definition, the victim here.

[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Guys, guys. You're both right. Motorcyclists are suicidal and cars are shit. Both can be true at the same time.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Motorcyclists are the only road goers that have tried passing my on the side I am signalling to turn on more than one occasion. Maybe because literally nobody else here signals they don't know what it means.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

I'm not making any arbitrary assumptions. I'm making educated guesses based on what I see on the highways near me.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

What I meant with that, is that you're treating those cars as if they're there by law of nature. That no person made a conscious decision to drive them. In an accident between a motorcyclist and a car driver, maybe the motorcyclist didn't heed the necessary caution while driving between objects that could kill, but the car driver decided to put a deadly object on the street. I really do not care to assign blame, which is why I prefixed all of this as being a shit take, but assigning blame to the mororcyclist is just terrible, even if it is done all too commonly.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, I'm really not. It's all about being intelligent and safe/defensive when you're driving or walking or biking or whatever else around vehicles of any kind. They're dangerous and you shouldn't be exacerbating it by lane splitting and speeding the way I see so many motorcyclists do all the time.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

You’re not wrong, but ~~reddit~~ Lemmy says that donorcyclists can do no wrong.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago
[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

That's a massive and unnecessary assumption. We have no real information, so let's not act like we do.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Sounds like you've never driven on a highway where there have been motorcycles present. Or you are a motorcyclist who doesn't like to acknowledge that many of your fellow riders don't follow traffic laws very well.

[-] sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Believe me, I am very aware of how many motorcyclists drive recklessly. My point is that we do not have enough information to really determine anything. I'm not going to just assume that based on what I've seen some other people do, especially when I have absolutely nothing to gain by doing so.

[-] Drusas@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

That's fair. But I did say it was just a guess based on anecdotal experience.

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