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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by willis936@lemmy.world to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

I find the quality and variety of discussions on the fediverse to be lower than what I had on reddit. Lemmings have strong preconceived notions and little interest in changing viewpoints from new information. I think I'll be switching back.

Edit: you'll find that most of the comments deny any shortcomings of the culture and go directly to invalidating my opinions via character assassination. If lemmy was a community that actually stood for the ideals which it espouses it would take constructive criticism in the spirit in which it was intended. QED.

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[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 111 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think I’ll be switching back.

Not possible. The reddit that you're longing for died a very long time ago. Subreddits are entrenched into their positions and will only berate you and bash you if you go against that grain.

What you're describing here isn't lemmy. It's the internet in general.

Edit: Ohhhhhhhhhhh. This explains why you don't want to be here. It's not that this place is an echo chamber. It's that you're petrified of logic and fact.

[-] willis936@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Slapping the rails like this is exactly the lack of nuance that lemmy has. You're either with us or against us. That's not how people look at issues. What matters is how people are treated. I'm not going to vote for someone who harms people. Being pragmatic to avoid a bad scenario? Don't even bother.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Being pragmatic to avoid a bad scenario?

You're not being pragmatic. Being pragmatic is to take the lesser of two evils. You're taking a different option entirely. Inaction. That is why you aren't respected for your political opinions.

“Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject.” - John Stuart Mill (A quote butchered and falsely attributed to Edmund Burke)

[-] GONADS125@feddit.de 11 points 9 months ago

Being pragmatic is to take the lesser of two evils. You're taking a different option entirely. Inaction.

I will admit I fell into this during the first election cycle in which I could vote, which was 2016. I couldn't stomach voting for Hillary after the Debbie Wasserman Schultz/DNC corruption with Bernie.

I dispised trump, but refused to vote for the lesser of two evils. Never again... I'm not a big fan of Biden, but I voted for him and I will eagerly do so again.

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

I get it. I don't think anyone expected Trump to be as truly horrific as he was. A bad president? Yes. But a nigh dictator? What a lot of us feared but never thought it'd actually happen. But at this point it literally is the option between a mediocre president who could do a lot better and the death of the republic. Glad you see that. Wish a lot of people like OP would too.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Anyone that knew his track record did. He's always been a petulant child. He's also had criminal connections since the '80s at least. He's had ties to Russia since the mid '90s. He bankrupted a casino, maybe two. He's only had one successful business in his life, and that was his "reality TV" show. I saw his face when he won, he was expecting to lose, and nobody in that room was happy when it was announced that he won. They all realized that all their dirty laundry was gonna come out with the level of scrutiny that the POTUS is normally under.

[-] GONADS125@feddit.de 6 points 9 months ago

I personally didn't think he had a chance to be elected.. I thought Hillary was going to win and didn't want to cast a vote for her because I disliked her as a candidate. But I would definitely go back vote for her if I could.

[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

And that attitude is why they will never change.

Why change when people will always bend the knee?

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The solution isn't just voting. Vote for the better of 2 shitty candidates, AND get involved at the local level to fight for change. Sometimes that can look like getting involved in local politics to push the democratic party left from the ground up. Other times it looks like mutual aid and community organizing.

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