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this contradiction always confused me. either way the official company is "losing a sale" and not getting the money, right?

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[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago

I buy disc.

I rip contents of CD to computer.

I sell disc.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY!!

This argument is only a "gotcha" if it was permissible use, but it wasn't, even before CDs.

[-] PopShark@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Not very fun fact: The developer from that video got arrested for cp possession

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

You’re totally right, that’s not fun at all!

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

You rather had them walk free? /S

[-] Nightweb@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I’m back, it’s me DP

[-] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I think you are referring to rules in the USA. In Canada, we have 'fair dealing' laws that would allow you to rip your CD and sell it. In part, this is already funded by a levy on blank CDs here.

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The amount of people who will duplicate their tapes and CDs would be lower than the amount of people who will duplicate their digital files.

Most of the time when a law sounds silly for banning something when alternatives exist, it's because people themselves are silly and don't actually go for the alternatives at the same rate as they would the banned thing. Ie gun accessory bans, ninja star bans.

[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 16 points 1 year ago

Where were you in the early 2000s? Lol

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

I don’t know anyone who didn’t do this.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Anecdotal evidence is literally evidence of one (which disproves "zero" claims). Collections of anecdotal evidences make statistics making your dismissive statement dumb.

I'm adding to the pile. I can name literally over a dozen people in my childhood who copied Discs.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Start naming. Organize the names. And their experiences, and start collecting over time, if you wanna go that route. Because otherwise, you're just some random words in the ether.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 2 points 1 year ago

We are... you have 3 in front of you. Out of the probably 300-400 people who've looked at this thread you've seen 3 people answer affirmatively. You're watching it happen in real time!

[-] M500@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago
[-] mhague@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Burning CDs. That's how I know most people didn't know how to do it, or want to put in the effort. You had to go buy a stack of CDs, hope your computer supported burning, had to make sure players could support the burned disc (depending on if you made a music disc or data disc, if it was rewritable), and spend the time to burn the disc.

Contrast that to ctrl+c ctrl+v.

There's more people who can 'duplicate' digital files than there were people burning CDs.

Netflix's mail service was great for data hoarders.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of those three steps, step 2 is the illegal one. (Assuming we're talking about music and not software.) Even if you never do step 3.

(Not saying things should be that way. Nor that it's not difficult to enforce. Only that as the laws are today, even ripping a music CD to your hard drive without any intention to share the audio files or resell the CD, even if you never listen to the tracks from your computer, the act of making that "copy" infringes copyright.)

Edit: Oh, and I should mention this is the case for U.S. copyright. No idea about any other countries.

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

In the US, if you don’t proceed to step 3, step 2 is legal (so long as the CD lacks DRM). You’re permitted a single backup under fair use; you’re also permitted to rip the music for personal use, like loading it onto a music player. You’re not supposed to burn it to a regular CD-R (is it illegal? Idk), but burning it to an Audio CD-R (where there is a tax that is distributed to rights holders like royalties) is endorsed by the RIAA.

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