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Britain’s top diplomat said Thursday that his country could officially recognize a Palestinian state after a cease-fire in Gaza without waiting for the outcome of what could be years-long talks between Israel and the Palestinians on a two-state solution.

Foreign Secretary David Cameron, speaking to The Associated Press during a visit Thursday to Lebanon intended to tamp down regional tensions, said no recognition could come while Hamas remained in Gaza, but that it could take place while Israeli negotiations with Palestinian leaders were continuing.

U.K. recognition of an independent state of Palestine, including in the United Nations, “can’t come at the start of the process, but it doesn’t have to be the very end of the process,” said Cameron, a former British prime minister.

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[-] ShroOmeric@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago
[-] theinspectorst@kbin.social 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Reminder also that whilst it's a very fun story, this claim was:

a. written as part of a hit job by two right-wing Brexiter journalists in the run-up to the referendum as part of a wider effort by the right to discredit the centrist establishment in the months before the vote (see also: Work and Pensions secretary Iain Duncan Smith resigning from Cameron's cabinet in protest at the work and pensions policies he had conceived and implemented over the previous six years...); and

b. never substantiated by any evidence that those two Brexiter journalists were willing or able to provide, despite them claiming in the book there was a photo.

The 2016 Brexit referendum was the dirtiest election in living memory in the UK. It was plagued by fake news and Russian interference. Isabella Oakshott herself is known to have covered up evidence of Putin's links to the Brexit campaign and her domestic partner is literally the current leader of Reform UK (the party formerly known as Nigel Farage's Brexit Party). She is not a credible or impartial figure.

There are totally things Cameron should be criticised for over his time in government, but that is no excuse to parrot Brexiter (and possibly Russian) fake news that was designed to discredit moderates and favour the far-right.

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The thing is and I get you and everything, but, Black Mirror's first episode (S01e01 The National Anthem) was about a Prime Minister fucking a pig was shown on TV before the allegations came out soo yeah....

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Yes with a totally different context to it. I highly doubt the two things are linked.

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Apparently it was one of the many open secrets.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Well that's going to be citation needed because there's never been any evidence that this was true.

Why make things up? The guys enough of a twat as it is without making things up

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You understand the fact that anyone putting it o to paper or public speech would have to prove that they knew? Noone was gonna put their head above the parapets. It's like you're basic and fail to understand the nuance involved in politics.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lack of evidence is not evidence that it happened. Since there are also wouldn't be any evidence if it hadn't happened.

Stop talking about a story that is probably not true, that there is absolutely no evidence for, and has nothing to do with politics anyway. Instead criticize him for the things that he definitely has done that are terrible.

[-] sizzler@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's like you are basic and fail to understand nuance.

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