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[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 years ago

I will never take a "movement" seriously that uses vandalism to get a message across.

"I'm all for trying to protect people and save lives, but you used vandalism!" Clutches pearls in a death grip

[-] Skedule@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

What about violence? Murder? Mass Murder? Where would you draw the line, which reaction is out of proportion?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Do you think people normally resort to mass murder in protest of, say, slightly decreased toilet paper thickness? If there's an issue that is so pressing that there's actually mass murder, then the State is an utter failure for not addressing said issue before it got to that point, and is almost certainly a fascist system.

This is just a strawman.

[-] Skedule@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

yes, let's hope the protestors are well adjusted and their measures are proportional. After all ideologies have never caused anyone to commit a tragedy.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

People are driven by their material conditions far more than ideas. Mass protests happen for a reason, there are genuine grievances that are not being addressed. It is the responsibility of the state to properly address protests, and if they fail, they become riots.

No, violence is not good. Nobody is saying it is. However, people are correctly placing the responsibility of the origin of said violence on the oppressor, not the oppressed lashing out.

Please, open a history book.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

That's quite the slippery slope fallacy. I replied to your comment of:

I don’t support fascisms, but I also don’t support violence and property damage to get the message across. I will never take a “movement” seriously that uses vandalism to get a message across.

Which at no point mentions mass murder. "Oh, you support people protesting? What about BLOWING UP THE PLANET IN PROTEST?! Is THAT okay then?"

The fact that you equate property damage with mass murder really says a lot about you.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Whose life got saved by Antifa?

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Considering Antifa isn't a group, the same number of people who have been saved by Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.

If you're asking whose life has been saved by protests and property damage then I direct you to the Civil Rights movement.

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