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no, neoliberalism is fascism. liberal democracies are breeding grounds for fascism.
You contradicted yourself. Neoliberalism is not fascism, it provides the breeding grounds for fascism.
neoliberalism is fascism. I didn't contradict myself.
Elaborate. You said it's fascism, then said liberal democracy is a breeding ground for fascism. Which is it? Is all reactionary ideology fascism?
This is what I mean. You have precisely no grounding in theoretical knowledge, and cannot understand the differences between a fascist movement that results from Neoliberalism, to Neoliberalism itself. That's like saying a tadpole is an adult frog. Same species, Capitalist, but completely different stages.
They think so therefore they're right. I've seen far too many ludicrous statements by people that clearly came before the evidence, not after it.
fascism is a strictly regimented society in which every institution serves the state. under Mussolini the most obvious expression was corporatism and in fact that is the purest definition of fascism. sure, eco will talk about The racial stuff as Central but I don't think Mussolini ever would. I think that he only saw that as part of strengthening the state just like almost every other country who was practicing eugenics at the time did, just like the United States.
fascists come to power out of liberal democracies because liberal democracies are incapable of preventing them. All they have to do is pitch themselves as " third positionist" like clinton did.
neoliberalism is fascism.
You explained what I already said: Neoliberalism creates the conditions for fascism. When one candidate is a Neoliberal, they leave the door open for fascism. When one candidate is a fascist, you're straight jumping to fascism.
Delaying the slide to fascism by voting neoliberal is the preferred course of action.
You're a fed, you have no knowledge of theory and exist purely to spoil the pot.
A tiger cub is still a tiger. You can cuddle and pet a tiger cub. Even let your kids play with it. But a full grown tiger? That's dangerous to have around, especially if it gets hungry.
Sure, so then there's no difference in voting to be locked in a room alone with a tiger cub vs an adult tiger, got it.
The tiger cub buys time to make meaningful grassroots change, even if it still continues the path to an eventual adult tiger.
after 4 years, all tigers are adult tigers.
Nope. Obama didn't result in fascism even after 8 years.
You're a fed.
obama ran out of bombs and deported more people than bush or trump.
in fact, at the outset of his presidency, he promised a new era of cooperation between business and government. that's literally mussolini's fascism.
It is not literally musollinis fascism. Certainly a start, but if you're legitimately saying mussolini is equivalent to Obama then again, you're a theoryless fed, and likely an actual fascist trying to commit fascist apologia.
Please, read theory for once.
mussolini's fascism, once, had a start as well.
It did, yes.
You are advocating that there is no difference between fascism and pre-fascism, so letting fascism happen is okay.
This is reactionary behavior and in no way helps the Proletariat.
no, i'm saying that fascism is bad and it should be resisted at every step with no compromise.
But you aren't. You're supporting fascism just so you can virtue signal and LARP as a leftist without doing any actual Materialist analysis.
i'm not supporting fascism: i'm calling it out everywhere.
No you aren't. You're committing fascist apologia by calling everything Capitalist fascism, and enabling fascism by intentionally spoiling your vote. You are a reactionary and have done no Materialist analysis.
no, i'm not.
huh. do you remember 2015? chuds running around california knifing queer kids, marching in the street shouting for trump. then, a year later, guess who was elected.
And those were people strongly opposed to Obama. Go figure.
Yep, and it got worse after Trump got elected. Obama wasn't the fascism, even if fascism is rising thanks to Neoliberalism.
neoliberalism is fascism. obama is fascist.
Social Democracy is Communism. Bernie is a Communist.
No, moderate policies are not extremist policies.
i don't consider obama moderate. he was the most extreme deporter in chief we've ever seen. he ran out of bombs persuing imperialist goals. he killed american citizens without due process. he was a well-propagandized fascist.
Obama was evil. Republicans are worse, especially Trump. Siding with the worse evil does in fact make you reactionary.
i'm not siding with republicans or trump.
Yes you are. If you aren't voting for Biden, the only other option is Trump. Abstaining from voting, or spoiling your vote, is a vote for Trump.
You are nothing more than a virtue signaling reactionary that does not at all care about the Proletariat.
this is election misinformation.
no, i expect to have more than 2 choices on my ballot.