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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

Not sure if you're just being intentionally thick or a troll.

Youre explaining yourself that despite you voting against him, Biden won, and you didn't want Trump and the person you voted for didn't win. So your actions gave you the least chance of having a candidate you were aligned with.

If anything, you are giving proof that it's a dumb thing to do. But that would be anecdotal evidence, and there's no need for that.

If you manually run the results and the effects of 3rd parties, it's pretty clear that it makes no sense in First Past the Post.

It's a thing known as The spoiler effect, or vote splitting and has always been a documented thing that dumb people don't understand. Who do you think funds these 3rd parties in the first place...

Youre being played.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

So your actions gave you the least chance of having a candidate you were aligned with.

i was aligned with the candidate for whom i voted, and i was not aligned with the candidates i voted against.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In 2016, everyone who voted 3rd party got Trump, the candidate they wanted the least.

In 2020, everyone who voted 3rd party was either going to get Biden, (the candidate they are moderately aligned with), or Trump, the candidate they were least aligned with.

In both cases, people who voted 3rd party made their chances worse. If you want more parties, the laws needs to change first, or else you're just wasting your vote and giving it to conservatives, who benefit from your 3rd party vote the most. You may not like it, but you are playing for Conservatives in the political game, and that goes for people who don't vote too.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

you’re just wasting your vote and giving it to conservatives,

no, i'm giving it to leftists.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Why bother voting at all? What difference does your non-Democrat, non-Republican vote make? If you really feel the need to be self-righteous about it, save yourself the energy, stay home, and just tell people you voted for Cornel West or whoever. They'll never know otherwise.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

why are you trying to suppress voter turnout?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I'm not trying to suppress anything. It was a question. Again: Why are you expending the energy to vote if you know your candidate won't win?

You haven't answered it. Will you?

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

you will forgive me if I don't believe you are "just asking questions". it feels like sealioning to me. and I read the repetition and demand for an answer as petulance.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

And I read your refusal to answer such a simple question as proving you can't actually back up your reason for voting at all. But sure, personal attacks might convince everyone that your avoidance of the question is actually proof of your righteousness. Let's see how that goes.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

it feels like sealioning to me

Personal attack.

and I read the repetition and demand for an answer as petulance.

Personal attack.

Anything else you want to lie about or are you going to answer my question?

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

How nice of you to share your feelings in the form of personal attacks. Now please answer my question.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

at this point I think it's pretty obvious that you're being petulant.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

At this point, I think it's pretty obvious you're hiding your refusal to justify your position behind personal attacks.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

you seem pretty worked up about what a stranger on the Internet thinks. maybe you need a break.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Another personal attack. You just can't justify why you are voting for a candidate who won't win instead of not voting at all. I mean I can easily justify my vote. Ask me to and I will. After you answer my question.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

personal attacks are expressly prohibited in this community and on lemme.world.

if you think that my therapy session friendly language is a personal attack, you should report it. if you think it's that toxic you shouldn't engage with it. a quick flip through my history you will find people literally calling me names. I don't call them out for it I just hit the report button.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

That's nice. Are you going to answer my question?

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

2016, everyone who voted 3rd party got Trump

everyone who voted for hilary got trump, too

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

if i'm just too thick to understand, a big big dummy, then you better make sure the vote isn't split: vote with me.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

I'll vote 3rd party when they legally and statistically have as much chance to win as the others, which doesn't work in First Past The Post.

First they need to change the voting system, then it will be advantageous for me to vote for someone else. Until then my vote is too important to throw away

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I'll vote for Democrats when they support my politics.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Cool. Keep playing purity politics and let the world go to hell in a handbasket.

[-] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago
[-] ToastedPlanet 1 points 11 months ago

What else is it about then? Trump will enable more genocides not less. Not getting your hands dirty seems to be the motivation I've seen among people who espouse this view point.

But you will get you're hands dirty if you don't vote in the election where fascists are trying to overthrow our democracy.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

My brother in Christ, as far as number of voters are considered, your vote is causing the split. You're in a minority which is enabling GOP by taking away votes from DNC.

Idiot.

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