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[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

In 2016, Bernie was shafted in the primary to protect capitalistic interests. When challenged in court, the DNC won under the premise that they are a private organization that can do what they want and votes don't mean shit.

In 2024, we're watching Biden sidestep Congress to fund genocide in Palestine.

Democrats are fascists, putting a pride pin in their cap doesn't change that.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Fascism is not just people supporting things you don't like.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

far right

Certainly mid right

authoritarian

Try being left of Biden in a room full of Democrats.

ultranationalist

See above, Dems are resistant to any meaningful change because they believe USA #1. They wave their little equality flag but suggest overhauling a US system and see how quick they become conservative.

centralized autocracy, militarism

Even after a Trump presidency, we can't reign in executive privilege because Dems are just as reliant on it. See: Biden sidestepping Congress to fund Israel, also.....gestures broadly at America for militarism

forcible suppression of opposition

3rd parties have met requirements to be included on ballots and in debates before, dems were just as quick as Repubs to move those goalposts everytime they're met. Also, 2016 - Bernie won the primary, no he didn't shut up also we'll go to court to show our voters they don't mean shit

belief in a natural social hierarchy

I mean, that's just capitalism and Dems are all in on defending that at all costs (See above)

subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race

Go to any thread discussing politics or Democratic function IRL and mention any political/social interest other than "Not Trump" or whatever the DNC flavor of the day is and watch how quickly you get told you're a stupid baby. (Case in point, your reply - "You don't have real concerns you just think fascism is anything you don't like nyahhh")

strong regimentation of society and the economy.

Again, capitalism, but politically - Any primary winner would have been rejected for Hillary in 2016 because they just owed her one, and here we are doubling down on Biden for a second term at 81 after 50 years in politics instead of, well, anybody else at all no matter how many people tell them how weak that play is.

Democracy is not shutting out any people supporting things you don’t like.

[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

forcible suppression of opposition

[-] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks for illustrating my point.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

Give me a leftist anti-fascist candidate and I'll vote for him. shrug "Leftists don't want to vote for fascists OR fascists waving a pride flag so they don't" isn't the hot take you think it is. Every year, democrats lose voters because they refuse to go any further left than mid-right to placate the donor class and every year y'all go on these tirades about how y'all don't need leftists anyway (as you simultaneously) blame us for Republican wins, usually in the same post.)

If leftist votes are so critical it'd probably be a good idea to stop actively pissing on them, huh?

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I agree. Its incredibly tough and an almost impossible task.

We have the choice of diet fascism, or the full blown thing.

We can buy some time if we stick with diet fascism. The only real solution is to get involved in the political process and try and change things. I think we're in a highly 'activated' community, so I'm sure, along with others, I'm not the only politically involved person here. I think beyond physical training, doing your best to set yourself up to be independent from the requirements of the social system, and engaging in the political process, there isn't much more I would promote doing. But those are also all very important things, especially becoming involved in the political process.

You can run as an independent. Find a rural district. Become the dog catcher (or hell, become the sheriff).

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