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Prosecutors will seek the death penalty for the white supremacist who killed 10 Black people at a Buffalo supermarket.

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[-] drislands@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It costs a hell of a lot more to execute someone, believe it or not.

Edit: damn, y'all are some bloodthirsty motherfuckers.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Then allow executions within days with cheaper, more humane methods like bullets. The only reason it's more expensive is because of you, and it should not be.

[-] HighElfMage@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Speeding up executions means more innocent people will be wrongfully executed. How many innocent people are you willing to kill to make sure this this asshole fries?

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Oh the fuck well, that's the price you pay for living in a society. All societies require their sacrificial lambs in order to prop themselves up because no legal system is perfect nor capable of being so, but we still have to put the well-being of our community above those who threaten or wrong it whether we make mistakes or not. And we give the state the benefit of the doubt in such circumstances because we accept that it's the only way a community can be functional and work without even WORSE sacrifices.

You're gonna tell me that we can't give life back to those we take it from knowing that's just as true with people wrongfully convicted and thrown in prison for life -- the people who you sentence to be raped, tortured, enslaved, and STILL murdered anyway because your selfish, entitled ass thinks your opinions are better than others. And you absolve yourself of responsibility for the extreme cruelty and suffering you cause by telling yourself, "Well at least they're alive," which is a cop-out.

It's far more humane to execute someone quickly after a trial because it minimizes the convicted's suffering, it's far better for the safety of the community because you are getting rid of a known offender even if the odds they're actually guilty aren't 100% perfect, it's much more morally conscionable than expecting the community and victims to live in fear of offenders and ultimately is the better, more moral way.

But you don't understand that because you're not emphasizing with anyone else, you only care about how you feel about death personally and that is 100% a you problem.

[-] HighElfMage@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

How is executing someone keeping us safer from them than just throwing them in prison? Prison escapes, especially of dangerous, death row level offenders are exceedingly rare, at least in the US. People will point to deterrence, but no scientific studies have been able to demonstrate any significant deterrence effect of capital punishment. You're just killing people out of anger.

I get it, many of these offenders are abhorrent. I won't lose any sleep over the supermarket shooter getting his. But the death penalty should be abolished.

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Because that person is dead which 100% guarantees they will never harm someone again. Whether it deters other people or not is irrelevant. We're talking about him, this guy, and him alone.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

So it's worth the false positive rate? Sacrificing one innocent out of every 20 executions is a good thing?

[-] maryjayjay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You sound like a member of a Jim Crow era lynch mob. Screw due process, he just looks guilty. Yeehaw!

[-] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 years ago

And you know you don't have a rational leg to stand on, so when called out on your shit, you do what any self-righteous, self-involved dipshit does: fall back to tired old stereotypes and meaningless insults.

Why in the world would you think acting that way will convince anyone of anything? Convince me to change my mind?

[-] arin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Only time it costs more is when the cops loses a lawsuit for unloading their clips on an innocent black person

[-] Neon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

on an innocent ~~black~~ person, sometimes also pet

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 4 points 2 years ago

Only because the methods employed are stupidly wasteful and overcomplicated. The process needs to be overhauled in a logical and pragmatic way. The problem with current means of execution is that feelings were brought into the equation in the first place.

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