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submitted 9 months ago by jherazob@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

Duolingo is very much on the Enshittification path, seems like they fired a number of translators and have the rest just proofreading AI.

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[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago

You definetely do not need to study an hour every day to make progress.Otherwise everyone learning a second or third language in school would be entirely fucked. For me personally the gamification has helped a lot with learning the basic concepts and words of a language.

If you want to get to the level of a native speaker of course no app can do that and i guess somewhere around B1/B2 you need to use the language in a real setting like you said.

[-] bluGill@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

While technically you don't need to study an hour every day, if you don't put that much time into it you will eventually look back and see you have spend a year+ and don't know anything and then give up. An hour a day means it is likely you have made progress between reviews of your life and thus the effort is worth continuing. At 10 minutes per day you will be dead before you know the language, so giving up is the right answer.

Enough people fail to learn a language in school as to consider the whole idea of school bunk. (but some do learn, and some schools are better than others - but the better ones all feature time as a factor)

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But that is relative. Of course if you spend ten minutes a day you will have a smaller progress. But still you make steady progress. It took me two month now with Spanish to get from nada to being able to say how many siblings i have, where my parents are from, where i live and what job i have. It is not much, but last week i didn't know how to express my workplace and by next week i'll be able to express something more.

This is the same like for everything you learn or train. You want to be a concert violinist? Yeah better practice multiple hours a day. But just practicising ten minutes a day will still get you to be a decent player after a few years. Want to look like Schwarzenegger in his best times? You got to hit the gym regularly and on a proper plan and diet. You just want to be fit and build some muscles? Ten minutes of planks, pushups and situps and you'll notice your shape changing after a few weeks.

As you said, with the small steady work you'll hit a wall eventually, be it languages, physical training or instruments. And then you need to put more effort for really filling the gaps.

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