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Giving Biden credit for more jobs after the pandemic is like saying Bill Clinton's pro corporate policies caused the dotcom boom...
Or that it was his over zealous crackdown on nonviolent offenders that caused the decline in crime rate and not the normal effect of banning leaded gas decades earlier, something that we saw across the globe on the same timeline after they banned it.
You're doing the same thing Republicans do, giving credit to your "team" for things that would have happened anyways.
And waaaaaay over exaggerating how much got fixed.
How does anything get made a law?
We had two years where Dems controlled the House, Senate, and presidency...
If you're saying it's not Bidens fault nothing got done, how is it he's the one that got literally anything else done?
You're making it out to be Biden has zero power, but you just gave him credit for increasing fossil fuels production?
Is there any logic behind this to you? Or are you just saying every good the ng is only because of Biden, and every bad thing is something he couldn't do.
Who honestly believes that?
No. We had two years where Dems controlled the House and the Presidency and were challenged at every move by Sinema and Manchin. What specifically would have convinced Sinema and, especially, Manchin to agree to codify abortion? Because, if you weren't aware, the Democrats did try to codify abortion and Manchin specifically blocked it.
So what should they have done to convince Manchin? Or do you think they could have convinced a Republican to take their side? Because I sure as hell don't.
I'd take that as an excuse if Biden hasn't spent the whole primary and election telling us that he can get dem legislation thru a Republican Senate....
Then we (luckily) end up with 50 D senators, and Biden told us it was pointless to try.
That doesn't really change anything, because Biden was already expecting to have to fight a Republican Senate and get a couple votes.
Hell, the whole reason we got 50 was the GA runoff when Biden was still saying 50 D's would be enough to pass the whole platform.
Do you think Joe "Senate whisperer" Biden just didn't know who Manchin was?
If so, why couldn't he still get those few R votes he promised he could get?
So it’s Biden’s fault that republicans are opposing anything the democrats are doing?
You’re playing right into their game with that kind of thinking.
It's my fault for listening to what Biden said he could?
I should have known he would blatantly lie to get elected and then immediately act like I'm an idiot for thinking what he said was true?
But also...
This time I should listen to Biden and it totally won't happen again....
Have you ever thought about why voter turnout goes down for incumbents?
Not always.
Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016 and there's no reason to believe Biden isn't going to get more considering it's an exact repeat.
Biden has been fixing Trump's dumpster fire and most reasonable people can see that.
Total votes almost always go up due to population increase over the last 4 years...
When people talk about turnout, we're talking about percent of eligible voters.
The 2020 presidential election was historic in many ways. Amid a global pandemic, with unprecedented changes in how Americans voted, voter turnout rose 7 percentage points over 2016, resulting in a total of 66% of U.S. adult citizens casting a ballot in the 2020 election.
I was.
That says overall turnout increased 7%< not that trump increased his by 7%... Not sure if you noticed, but he lost 2020...
And that's not even getting into how trump did what Republican voters wanted, Biden hasn't .
So even if Trump's went up, what does that have to do with Biden's?
But I'm tired of not noticing your username till I'm roped into conversations.
I'd rather just never see it again, so that's what I'm doing. Don't expect anymore replies, I'll never see them.
Have a good day u/SatansMaggotyCumFart
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So you move goalposts and get pissed off for being called out and block me? En
They literally tried. Did you even read my link?
Manchin isn't even a Democrat anymore, and even before he made that official, it was already de facto true.
So you're saying even tho it was obvious, Biden and his people didn't see it coming?
How does that change Bidens presumption that it would be a Republican Senate?