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Pika Labs new generative AI video tool unveiled — and it looks like a big deal::The new Pika 1.0 tool comes after a $55 million funding round for the generative AI company and is a big step up in AI video production.

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[-] Catoblepas 9 points 10 months ago

It’s literally a luxury, and trying to yank the rug out from under the artists who actually made the art the plagiarism machine runs on isn’t going to change that. You don’t need personalized art, and if you REALLY REALLY want personalized art super bad then that just underlines the value that artists give to society.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

It’s literally a luxury to have your own copy of a book, and trying to yank the rug out from under the scribes who actually made the books the plagiarism press runs on isn’t going to change that. You don’t need your own book and if you REALLY REALLY want one super bad then that just underlines the value that scribes give to society.

[-] Catoblepas 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If I can’t have the plagiarism machine spit out 100 pics of my big tiddy anime gf kissing me that’s just like children not having access to books. Won’t someone think of how every generation before this lived under the oppression of artists who wouldn’t work for free? 😭

It’s also a crime to reprint anything without the original author or artist’s permission so you might not like where your analogy leads lmao.

[-] Sasha 6 points 10 months ago

Modern society was partly possible due to the printing press. Yep, it sucks that people had their jobs replaced and if it were happening now I'd be fighting for them to be looked after, as they should.

Generating art is not some amazing world changing technology, it's trash. We do not need to replace artists, and frankly we just fucking shouldn't.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If it's so trash it won't replace them right? So there's no issue.

Plus these neural networks could be the stepping stones to a truly transformative technology and in 100 years someone will be saying exactly what you said about the printing press.

Hate for AI is a meme at this point.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Tell that to Disney, for example. It wouldn't replace artists in a world that cared about artistic quality... we don't live in that world.

For capitalists, easily generated shit is good enough.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's down to the audience. If people won't accept it then it won't be done. If people do then why wouldn't they.

[-] zazo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Any artist who stops being an artist because someone else can put words into a computer and get a big tiddy goth gf pic out, wasn't really that interested in making art in the first place.

[-] Sasha 8 points 10 months ago

My guy, they stop being an artist because someone stole all their work and fired them for it

[-] zazo@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

My dude, my grandfather got fired after the collapse of the soviet economy because "artist" wasn't a productive enough job to be kept around, but he still made art for 20 years after without getting paid because his purpose in life was to create art, not to sell it.

And sure the theft argument would be valid, but that's a strawman, because Adobe have already trained their own image gen model on fully licensed images and real life artists are already paying money to use it, so they must see the value in it.

[-] Sasha 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You just described the problem back to me, artists should get paid for creating, I don't think being paid for something you love takes away from it, but that's an opinion and I understand people have their own. I think that's just an extension of the beauty of art (having our own opinions about it). Profit motives are the exact problem here, not a justification to make it worse.

If Adobe is doing that, then that's awesome. If they're making tools to replace artists, instead of tools to help them, significantly less awesome.

My problem is that lots of tools do exist that replace artists, and most do steal their training data. I would love for these things to change, maybe we'll make it out okay, but we need to make noise.

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