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Pika Labs new generative AI video tool unveiled โ and it looks like a big deal
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I do not like theft laundering machines.
I like people.
AI actually has good uses when embedded within technology, a great example being natural language processing, it's capable of so much good especially for the disabled. But so much effort is being focused on creating junk, using stolen data. People are not being paid for their work which is then being used to replace their jobs.
Do you think the software engineers who are developing the AI models (which have been trained on freely given away code) are just stupid and are willingly creating a machine that will take away their jobs because they don't understand the impacts? Or could it be that they do understand the stakes, but continue on despite that because of (as you mention) the unfathomable good the technology can bring? I would hope most people would be willing to sacrifice their wellbeing now for the betterment of everyone else in the future.
If you're still understandably worried tho - just start a garden and begin building tightly knit communities now, since you never know when a solar flare will wipe all our technological progress away...
Do you understand that there's a choice about what purpose to make these for?
That yeah, you can just ignore all the harm you'll do? That people do just ignore all the harm they are doing?
No, I'm not one to call people stupid. I'm calling people and corporations greedy, there's an insanely long history of that and I'm sick of it ruining this world.
People do choose to make good AI, ones that will and currently are benefiting people. This is not one of them, I'm not calling all AI bad, I'm calling theft and soulless art generation bad.
What if a solar flare hits? What if the world was made of pudding?
You can say that about all software.
As a programmer my job is to automate tasks and make people obsolete.
You have to make your peace with it.
Should we ban excel and calculators and make everyone do calculations by hand? It would create a lot jobs Hehe
Also the solar flare thing is a very real thing that could happen. Not a random hypothetical like the pudding.
Hello, we have the same job.
It is not something to be proud of, but it is a part of progress and it is vaguely justifiable if it actually has a worthwhile purpose. We should also be helping the people whose jobs we replace, but we don't. I joined a union to try and help those people, to secure their jobs and to get them the pay they deserve.
AI art is not a worthwhile thing to create. Stealing from people is bad. These are my points.
A solar flare is entirely unrelated to anything I'm talking about, hence the pudding.
It's really not up to us to help people. That's why we have governments. Of course we should if we can.
If your job can be easily automated then you are wasting your life anyway.
The technology behind it is incredibly powerful and these tools are funding research.
Is it our responsibility to help people? I think it is if we're helping to hurt them. While we can technically throw the blame up the corporate chain, I think we need to have personal responsibility for our actions, I understand that you, as I do, likely rely on your job to exist, but we can still push for the least harm possible.
If you advocate up said chain on behalf of others, then that is good too.
I'm aware of what this technology can do, I actively use some to help with my work. But I make sure it's as ethical as it can be.
And AI art is not really all that useful. Just because you can automate art doesn't mean it's a waste. I think that's a dreadfully bleak view.
Helping funding research is great and all, but maybe they should pay all the people they're stealing from? Or at the very least get consent.
I was talking about automating jobs in general there. AI will never replace art completely. Only really digital artists if it does.
It depends how you view it. You could chose to view it as saving someone from a pointless job. If I can write an application to do it then they are literally wasting their lives doing that task.
Is keeping someone in a bullshit job helping them?
It not up to me to create jobs. I'd start a business if I wanted to do that. The task of keeping people in employment as technology progresses is way above my paygrade and not something I know anything about.
Ah I understand.
I'm not talking about that either, and I'm not against automating jobs. I'm more talking about preventing unecessary harm, I don't really want to say who I work for but our company will shutdown entire storefronts and just lie about why. The union works to ensure this sort of thing doesn't happen unfairly, and that people have access to the legal support they need when it does, among other things.
The reality is that they aren't working bullshit jobs, and we don't automate everything they do. Even the things we do automate require their constant help to support, but the business doesn't care and will just fire them because they see some vague report suggesting they can.
Creating jobs is much harder, of course, but there are things we can and should do to make sure transitioning people out of those jobs is as painless as possible. I'm honestly of the opinion that we shouldn't have to have jobs to survive, and that pushing for good social support is a necessary part of increasing automation.
As a loosely related aside, even though my job doesn't qualify for being bullshit, I definitely feel like I'm wasting my life doing it, but I have no other choice except dying.
I get what you mean. That's totally fair enough.
I'm lucky enough to work for a mid sized family business. So good wages without the corporate bullshit.
I actually left a higher paying corporate job for better work/life balance and I am a lot happier.
I get that not everyone is in a position to do that.
You should read this article by Kit Walsh, a senior staff attorney at the EFF. The EFF is a digital rights group that recently won a historic case: border guards now need a warrant to search your phone.